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Ossian 
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 Topic: TIVIUM and EAGLES
Posted: 23 Jan 2013 at 10:06 |
I suppose it's too much too ask for some resolution to this dispute between EE and Trivum is it? All the posts that are relevant to this thread ( less then 50%) seem to focus on denying responsibilty, shifting blame onto the other side. The remaining posts involve the character assasination of third parties that have nothing to do with the issue.
Here we have a real challenge for alliance leaders in this "Sandbox "game of ours. You have had your fun prosecuting war now test your diplomatic skills and maturity in negotiating peace.
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Mr Damage
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Posted: 23 Jan 2013 at 05:12 |
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Absolutely Kumo, everyone is entitled to their opinion and we don't always agree, hence the war.
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Koth
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Posted: 23 Jan 2013 at 02:25 |
I am still relatively new. I was in TLR for a week before leaving to head to TVM. I didn't leave because of politics. I left TLR because I wasn't happy with our leader.
In his comments in AC and in IGMs, Bonfyr Verboo has always been seen by me to be forthright and level headed. I have never seen him spout off about or besmirch anyone in GC. Nor does he appear to be an egomaniac. I think these are good qualities for a leader to have. I am happy in TVM.
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Kumomoto
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Posted: 22 Jan 2013 at 17:27 |
 Daefis wrote:
this is nonsense... comment removed :) (though rill is great :)
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I'm sure you appreciate her unwavering and persistent support of Soup in GC and the Forums.
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Juswin
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Joined: 04 Aug 2011
Location: Philippines
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Points: 119
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Posted: 22 Jan 2013 at 08:20 |
Brids17 wrote:
abstractdream wrote:
You constantly (the use of that word is a bit much but since you guys killed so much more of ours than we did of yours, I figured I could use it as well) attacked our siege and refused to declare war. I don't see a difference. |
Are you kidding? If someone punched you, that's assault. If you punch them back, that's self defense. Two entirely different things. You can't send a siege against someone and then when they retaliate and criticize you for it, call them hypocrites. And for the record, I think they're letting you guys off pretty easy, even if their hands are tied due to the war. If you tried the same stunt with mCrow you'd have a lot more to worry about than a war declaration and a forum post. |
+1000
I seem to recall Bonfyr and friends giving me a welcome treatment by trying to siege me while they were still in TLR as well when they were already in TVM. That was done without declaring war on Druids or even giving a plausible explanation.
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Juswin
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Posted: 22 Jan 2013 at 08:08 |
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Daefis
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Joined: 05 Aug 2011
Location: London
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Posted: 22 Jan 2013 at 00:18 |
this is nonsense... comment removed :) (though rill is great :)
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Daefis
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Location: London
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Posted: 22 Jan 2013 at 00:12 |
Anjire wrote:
Rill wrote:
Since name-calling is discouraged on the forum, I will not say what I think about Bonfyr's behavior. Instead, I will simply thank him for showing himself for what he is. Nice to have you lay it out for all to see.
If anyone from Harmless? is reading this, I would point out the echoes of diablito right here. And yet this person is your ally.
Who have you become? |
In a like vein, I will not say what I think of your continued insistence to tie any and all actions of everyone's brother, sister, niece, nephew, uncle, aunt up to and including perfect strangers back to Harmless?
My dealings with Bonfyr have all been both mature and rationale and from them I can bank that there will be an honest exchange of information in our discussions unlike with some obsessed individuals that frequent the forums. |
Edited by Daefis - 22 Jan 2013 at 00:13
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Anjire
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Posted: 22 Jan 2013 at 00:06 |
Rill wrote:
Since name-calling is discouraged on the forum, I will not say what I think about Bonfyr's behavior. Instead, I will simply thank him for showing himself for what he is. Nice to have you lay it out for all to see.
If anyone from Harmless? is reading this, I would point out the echoes of diablito right here. And yet this person is your ally.
Who have you become? |
In a like vein, I will not say what I think of your continued insistence to tie any and all actions of everyone's brother, sister, niece, nephew, uncle, aunt up to and including perfect strangers back to Harmless?
My dealings with Bonfyr have all been both mature and rationale and from them I can bank that there will be an honest exchange of information in our discussions unlike with some obsessed individuals that frequent the forums.
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The Duke
Forum Warrior
Joined: 22 Jul 2011
Location: Indiana
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Posted: 21 Jan 2013 at 23:14 |
ES2 wrote:
abstractdream wrote:
ES2 wrote:
abstractdream wrote:
We didn't leave to avoid hostilities, we left to avoided certain death (or as you put it, because we didn't like how it was handled.) Have you seen the size of Shade? Our former leader did not seem to care about us, so we left.
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While this thread has been amusing to be read through for some time, I'll step in right here. A word of note to all, delivering propaganda was one of the first things you learned in TLR for leadership purposes, using it to defend the executive branch whenever possible and blame some other party IE "Fromfrak's crusade on Gemleys mine". |
Everything I know I learned from you...lol
ES2 wrote:
So in actuality, the war with Duke would never have been avoided, This fellow right here kept pressuring me to declare war on druids "This will be TLR's way to advance itself in the community", Bonfyr bypassed my military functions by telling my military squad leaders to inform him and not the military leader on their todo's, |
Bypass, right. Just so everyone knows...at that time and for months preceding these events I was a sitter on EF, as he admits below...Why bother with all the subterfuge when I could take TLR away from it's glorious leader whenever I pleased? Because no one would followed a usurper with that tactic, you had to illustrate that you did everything possible but TLR was led by an erratic soul and you had to take action to preserve the work put in, why even our allies turned their backs...
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he was in contact with Nightbringers themselves debating on a coup on TLR ( we had sitting rights on each other and the others alts). |
I did indeed ask for council from my friend. No surprise, right? To me, TLR was family and I did not want to loose her. Looking back, I should have logged onto EF, had him quit TLR (many, many opportunities to do just that) and be done with it but I didn't. My mistake. And just as I had the opportunity to log onto your account and see your detailed messages planning a coup, I believe you and your lovely associates deemed me mentally unstable to lead an alliance.
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Sure enough a NC player wipes TLR sieges on shade, |
Quite true. That NC member had a personal vendetta. Guess who that vendetta was against. You only get one guess.
What a great moment for that vendetta, you pressure TLR members to actively fight Druids, Shade threatens war unless TLR backs off, TLR/Shade war and bam suddenly NC player wipes TLR sieges on a shade player. Pretty nice timing for that vendetta.
ES2 wrote:
N refuses to help the ex ally TLR and the glorious messiah Bonfyr and his disciples escape through the red sea of digital blood to the promised land in Trivum all the while promising all TLR members at that time that I would send chariots after them in revenge. |
That, or rage quit. I must admit, your continued presence in Illy (in the EF account) surprised me.
Well it reminded me of my old friend in illyriad by the name of Squill who was in a similiar situation. He left for a vacation and his executive members took over and left him nothing. Squilly was sad and quit but I looked on as a way to continue teaching the bountiful history of illy that I've acquired by staying in the game. So many vets have left, I'm sure you can understand why some stay.
ES2 wrote:
I'm sure that will be dissected fully, but thats more or less the case. TVM meant to continue hostilities that originated in TLR. |
True. Have never denied it. From what I've been able to decipher you seem to deny responsibility for the attacks, that such attacks are not calling for return attacks by EE? ie "siege breaking is a tradition"Why is it so hard for so many players in a game which is focused on confrontation (military and otherwise) to understand that war is why we are here? |
My answers are in a pretty pink.
Now at the end of the day I don't really care who's leading what digital band of soldiers that have no value in the real world, I do care when someone is mudding the water.
I'm also done talking, I'm aware this can be dragged on and on, I'm happier in Ancient Air
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War coulda been avoided easily- Bonfyr didnt ignore the mails i sent you over and over, and Beecks destroyed your seige. Look at her player history and you can see the ties she has. It was not a "NC" plot or a vendetta. The rest is between you guys but I wanted to clear this bit up
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