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Originally posted by Ten Kulch Ten Kulch wrote:

The persistent world is a major feature of Illyriad. If a new server started, effectively making this one obselete, then I think far more players would just find a new game entirely. The game population has been in steady decline for years, and the number of players has probably declined more than the number of accounts (due to password transfers). A reboot could easily be a deathblow to a fragile community.

I agree.
The non zero accounts are now around 4,000 players.  It used to be 5,000 players.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IPp9StSn-Q

Interview with the CTO of Illyriad Games in Prague in May 2018.

Interestingly enough at 31/03/16 when the annual return included a list of shareholders it was clear that Niesewand owned a controlling interest but that the CTO didn't seem to own any equity.  Still if he can get to a conference abroad, there is some money somewhere. It's just not allocated to Illyriad.

I'm not going to pass any comment on the interview.  People can make their own minds up.


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Devs... please give this guy his own server so he will end this thread.    thank you.
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Yah who knows whats going on with the company. All i know is they took a hands off approach to the game. Which would be fine if thats what the player base wanted, but it isn't what they want.
I dunno maybe i should've asked for a new server two years ago. Now this game kinda seems dead and unless they do something in the next six montha i might just thank them for the time i did have and move on. No use fighting something which won't change.
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The "game" was probably paid for by the £100k odd they raised in equity in 2012(?) and then spent. The accumulated P&L is around -£100k (?) and they used research and development tax credits (cash refunds from HMRC) to stretch out the development money. Somewhere along the line they decided not to develop illyriad but AOA instead. The owner (major shareholder) is some kind of dreamer imho. I can't be bothered to remember ALL the details but its there on companies house beta in the UK.  The only unknown is from where the money came for AOA but answer may lie in property as the director moved addresses at some point and property deeds can be searched in the UK for a fee. But in the words of Vicky Pollard, Am I bothered?
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Couldn't agree with you more Dungshovel. That's why I decided to cut my losses and quit playing the game. I have no problem with the financial support, it was that it had so many fundamental flaws that I didn't want to "waste" my time on this game. I could careless if they never developed this game further and let it sit the way it is. The only thing I care about is getting a new realm with the sitters and the multi-gamers out. Cause those ruined the game for me, so I want them gone. I also want a clean slate to play on free of the benefits that sitters and multi-accounting gave the old player base.

I personally think they have this game paid for, I said in a previous post that I think the company behind Illyriad is just happy collecting their government grant money. I could read up on exactly the statue that they receive their money for and the merit behind it. But if I had to venture I'm guessing when their grant comes up for renewal they tell the government we have X amount of players playing the game (sitter accounts included, and multi-accounts) that way it makes it look a lot better that the government isn't funding some dead beat game. That's the only reason why I can think of them imo abandoning this game. Idk how many people gotta quit and make statements before they realise that the sitters have to go. I could totally be wrong though, but I believe they're happy collecting the government money. Here Ill spend the next few hours researching the grant that they receive their money from. If I could find out which programme it falls under I could phone the ministry and ask them for a financial copy to see how much the company receives from the British government, it should all be public knowledge as its tax payers dollars and has to be accounted for.

But yeah I'm not playing a game where I knowingly know its not going to change. I suppose I could start playing again, create 8 accounts and become what I hate. Guess the old adage goes, if you cant beat em join em!
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Until they get this age of ascent delusions of grandeur out of their system there will be stuff all happening on illyriad. the only change they made was to make it possible for dedicated players to spend more cash money to trade prestige. i.e. multi accounting can only be abolished at a financial cost which they can't afford.  the game barely makes any money. whatever comes in is spent and it isn't on development of illyriad. perhaps they are trying to earn enough to pay back the people who funded them in the first place - who knows? for sure the lack of communication on both illyriad and on aoa is shocking. i still play but i don't put cash into something that has no active development. they have only themselves to blame.

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"where, essentially, everyone in the game could start again from scratch".

I see how in the technical term the Dev could have used the term "start again from scratch" as one would have to move down to this landmass and begin a new. In one way it was like declaring bankruptcy, you personally get to start a new but the rich people and the banks still get to keep what they've already made.
Like I said before I'm looking for a Russian Revolution of 1917, I want a new server free of the years of build up and free of sitter accounts. I don't want an "essentially, everyone in the game could start again from scratch". I want a definate everyone in the game WILL start again from scratch.
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Originally posted by eowan the short eowan the short wrote:


2) The devs have previously added a second continent but I see few people actively asking for more land to be created.


Yes, you are right, I see zero (big 0) people asking for new expansion of land, because below is quote from a GM discussing the reason(s) for BL implementation. Opening up a new server and land expansion are completely different things at many levels.

Originally posted by GM Stormcrow GM Stormcrow wrote:

Hi all,

Just wanted to bring you all up-to-speed on changes to our planned release of the Broken Lands expansion to Illyriad.

There are a number of things to run through here, so please bear with me.

New player influx
We've recently had a large influx of new players, and Elgea is now getting pretty full.  Finding an unsettled area on Elgea for new alliances is proving extremely difficult, and I don't think anyone will doubt that all the "best" locations are pretty much taken.

We want to expand the landmass, and implementing our original plan for the Broken Lands - where, essentially, everyone in the game could start again from scratch with a further 2 pairs of 10 cities on another continent - isn't really a solution to this issue.

Full source thread here > https://forum.illyriad.co.uk/25may14-broken-lands-update_topic5603.html

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It wouldn't be a reboot. Players can still play on the original one and play on the second one. It would still be persistent because it wouldn't be going any where.
I think where the apprehension lies is that most of the players know a second server would render the original obsolete, which it would. Its like the old dog you've had for years and all a sudden theres a brand new puppy and everyone wants to play with the brand new puppy cause its new and fresh. So i understand why people who have lots to lose wouldn't want it to go through. Just ask your self one question, are you fine with Illyriad deteriorating until maybe 100 players are left, or do you want to take a chance and see if this can kick start Illyriad again.
Like i said the choice is yours to stay on the original if there were to be a second server created, the persistencey wouldn't be lost.
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