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The_Dude
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Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 2396 |
Posted: 16 Oct 2012 at 23:02 |
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Well, I was using myself as the standard of ego, so it is pretty easy to see you as humble.
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HonoredMule
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Joined: 05 Mar 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1650 |
Posted: 16 Oct 2012 at 23:00 |
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Libel I say!
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"Apparently, quoting me is a 'thing' now."
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The_Dude
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Posted: 16 Oct 2012 at 22:59 |
I think HM is the most humble soul to walk the land of Illy.
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HonoredMule
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Joined: 05 Mar 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1650 |
Posted: 16 Oct 2012 at 22:44 |
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Also, while skimming over the thread I did see someone ask if they could quote something I said. I prefer not to be quoted out of context, but it's not like anyone can control how their words are used once published. At any rate, go right ahead. I think the quote in question is one of my more apt statements anyway, and I've never once been accused of humility.
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"Apparently, quoting me is a 'thing' now."
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HonoredMule
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Posted: 16 Oct 2012 at 22:39 |
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The details you enumerate there are all ok. The problem arises mostly from other inappropriate and/or out-of-order steps not mentioned. There are a number of things we'd expect from someone who stands as one of us and thus claims a position of loyalty:
But while you are a member of an alliance, that alliance as a whole deserves your first consideration in all matters. Imagine if some key members told Harmless representatives they thought Harmless was in the right and all of Consone were 100% wrong--that they would try on Harmless' behalf to convince Consone to surrender--and then contacted Consone leadership and said "hey, I have no idea what's going on, so what's up with this?" One last point. I can see how Harmless can be accused of failing to control the message diplomatically speaking, but you should understand that we've not really tried to do so. Honestly I'm surprised to see that there are even people left like yourself who bear a shred of objectivity and/or have intelligent questions or discussion. I normally wouldn't be bothering to carry any post-statement discourse at all. The last time I was here, the forum's atmosphere had devolved into utter despotism and inane punditry. I left because there was simply nothing worth being here for. Yet even if that has changed, the fact remains that nothing is decided or controlled here--not even public opinion. Word-of-mouth and alliance-to-alliance dealings still carry the greatest weight and volume of information among the older alliances at least. Heck, before war broke out there was more activity and participation in Harmless's Embassy alone than the whole of these forums. Anything that takes place here and now is just a puppet show and parade for the new faces. And as much of a chaotic flurry as this seems, it also is just the same old song and dance from so many times before, and it's participants all comfortable in their familiar and well-practiced roles. Who in their right mind would lose sleep trying to control a propaganda war when there's no prize for winning? All those kind of prizes were handed out over the previous 3 months to 2 years (depending on how big a picture you're viewing). |
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BlindScribe
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Joined: 12 Sep 2012 Status: Offline Points: 168 |
Posted: 16 Oct 2012 at 22:26 |
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That could well be...there have been so many! Which rather proves the point, I think. The messaging war was lost almost before this thing began...that we can no longer keep track of who said what, and when puts the exclamation point at the end of the sentence. Regardless, I don't think anybody who comes here would argue that H? has, in any way "won" the messaging war, which also proves the point decisively. I'm not sure they could have, based on what we now know, but there were specific strategies that could have been employed to at least give a fighting chance. Control of the message does not happen by accident.
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Darmon
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Joined: 15 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 315 |
Posted: 16 Oct 2012 at 21:33 |
I vaguely recall someone giving that impression as well, but on combing through this thread (albeit very hastily) I couldn't seem to locate the exact quote. Are you sure it wasn't in another thread? Personally, all these threads are starting to blur together in my mind...
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BlindScribe
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Joined: 12 Sep 2012 Status: Offline Points: 168 |
Posted: 16 Oct 2012 at 20:36 |
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Right here in this thread...I forget who, but it surely seems a valid point, based on how the message got away from H? so quickly in this latest incident. Bottom line...where diplo is concerned, you either control the message, or it controls you (that's another kind of power)...H? has failed to control the message.
You can point to any number of reasons why this is so, but often, the simplest explanations are correct. H? is an alliance of warriors. Diplo is...meh. Edited by BlindScribe - 16 Oct 2012 at 20:38 |
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SunStorm
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Posted: 16 Oct 2012 at 20:32 |
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BlindScribe
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Posted: 16 Oct 2012 at 20:15 |
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KP, I would not have expected otherwise. :) And you are certainly free to do so. You are focusing on one or two trees, and utterly missing the presence of the forest, but...as your own folks have said...this isn't really your strong suit. No shame in that...you've always played to your strengths and done it very well. It just happens that this isn't one of them.
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