This ****ing war

scaramouche wrote: bansisdead wrote: Sliveen wrote: There have been tense moments in the very verbal war where trade and traiining alliances were afraid of trading with anyone involved in the war due to being seen as a sympathizer and get pulled into the war. BSHx is directly affiliated with BSH, we have not been living in fear of WE attacks.  Cannot say anyone at BSHx is afraid in anyway.  If a trade alliance cannot make a killing during war time, they're in the wrong business!!! hmmm...with so many alliances that have declared on us..I dont even know if we're at war with you guys...we're too outnumbered to go attacking all the alliances against us anyway. and we dont live in fear even if we're being attacked by your affiliations.

Are neutral players leaving the game because they're being attacked? I hadn't heard that. The community still seems to have a strong reaction against small players and uninvolved bystanders getting mauled by big players and large alliances.

My two cents? I could care less about your war. I just wish the parties involved would STFU about it in General Chat. Trash talkers, bleeding hearts, wannabe Roman orators--please just keep it on the forums where I can ignore it. The new continent will have the Care Bear Forest, and that will resolve everyone's problems about unwanted PvP.

WeeAshley wrote: Aristeas wrote:  <span style="line-height: 1.4;">To take up on our discussion from this morning...</span> You're english is 100 times better than most English speakers that post on the internet Ari! :) I think every reasonable person would agree that (and what follows I mean in the most literal sense): All things are permitted except things explicitly forbidden by: <span style="line-height: 1.4;">The mechanics of the game</span> <span style="line-height: 1.4;">The rules from the developers.</span> <span style="line-height: 1.4;">We can philosophize about what people see as fair; inevitably it doesn't matter.  If the mechanics and developers permit it, then it is permitted.  Players can make whatever rules they'd like about what is fair. They can try to enforce these rules in game.  They can't, however, stop a stronger group of players from doing something else.</span> So it seems wise to me that, if you don't like what is permitted in the game you shouldn't invest a lot of yourself in it.  Of course you can do whatever you'd like, but you may have the (aforementioned) "bad time". I empathize with people that have lost time/money, but I find it ridiculous when they complain that what is permitted to happen happened.  Particularly people that then say they'll quit because of it.  Of these posts I think, "Probably best for them in the long run if they do quit!" I also empathize with people who want to retain the "civility" as the game grows.  I would love to see that as well.  However, as you said - everyone has a definition of civility, and the only one that matters is the one described by the moderators. tldr; If you don't like what the mechanics/devs permit in the game, you're gonna have a bad time.

blazingwolfeyes wrote: WeeAshley ten days into the game? you may rethink this post as you progress in the game.

Definite possibility. But I think people can change their minds even if they have been in a game for 10 years.

And thankfully, the ability that one has to change their mind at some future date doesn't invalidate the point they are making now. If it did, some players here could say the same to you.

I can tell you this for certain, the potential for time/monetary loss in this game is tame compared to some of the games I have loved. :)

Riurk wrote: An arrogant proclamation from the Leader of the 8th ranked Alliance who is ONLY making war on a single Alliance.  That Alliance being ranked 25th and also at war with 8 others must be quite a handful for you.   Regardless of the outcome for the Consone Confederation, you will have had very little to do with it Thedude, excepting of course your arrogant dictates on the forum.