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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 16:04
There is some value to the OP comments, I think. However my perspective was not included in his examples. I think that when people have spent a long time building up their accounts and cities, it is a reason to get upset when attacked. I don't agree that the attitude that it is just a game and it shouldnt matter if your down is razed by another player. When the precious commodity of personal time has been consumed, there in turn becomes a reason to value those things. I have recently come across a player who told me that since Illy is just a game, dont take it hard when your city is attacked , your res stolen, etc. But then I came across a player who has used an enormous amount of prestige to build their cities up. They have used not just the commodity of personal time, but also RL money. For them, the loss of a city is felt differently. To dismiss others perspectives can be insensitive and foolhardy. It can lead to bitter feelings. 

 As for the person who asked how does the war affect those of us not directly involved in it? Well. The trade alliances are definitely affected. There have been tense moments in the very verbal war where trade and traiining alliances were afraid of trading with anyone involved in the war due to being seen as a sympathizer and get pulled into the war. Is it fair to other players not affiliated with the war to be singled out for hostile intentions?

Another part of this is that many people previously in accounts in the war have abandoned and then come back. Some started new alliances prop or con the war movements. Others have tried sneaking into the sides camps with alts. This has created distrust in dealings with strangers. Does that affect non affiliated players or peaceful alliances? I say yes.

The longer the war goes on, the more far reaching do the effects of this war have on the entire Illy community. Therefore, I do not find it offensive in hearing a player say they just want it to end. Because whether you are an affiliated member or a silent unaffiliated player, the war has definitely affected players. From trade to hostilities in gc. 

I too would like to see this war ended. Not necessarily taking sides on right but rather that the effects have become tiresome.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 16:06
nope, its just getting started :D much more fun coming in the future!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 16:36
Personnaly I feel that the original post in this thread seemed to be appealing to the Dev's to stop this
 war in some way, in CK's reference to The Powers That Be.  Perhaps I mis-read that, but if not I feel this is rediculous.

Regarding whether the war should or not continue, it is clearly not strictly for me to say, being a neutral party, however from what I see over and over agin in these forum posts, there are players on both sides that wish it to continue and propegate it.  Therefore, clearly aslong as this happens the war will continue.

For anyone involved that wants out, the only option is either to find a new alliance (if a number of members of yours still propegate the war), or to kick those few players that do, so that your alliance can move forward in a peacefull direction.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 16:49
Originally posted by Sliveen Sliveen wrote:

There have been tense moments in the very verbal war where trade and traiining alliances were afraid of trading with anyone involved in the war due to being seen as a sympathizer and get pulled into the war.


BSHx is directly affiliated with BSH, we have not been living in fear of WE attacks.  Cannot say anyone at BSHx is afraid in anyway.  If a trade alliance cannot make a killing during war time, they're in the wrong business!!!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 16:51
The war will continue until objectives have been achieved.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 17:08
Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:

Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

I do believe that some participants in this war are trying to have their cake and eat it too -- proclaiming that they seek positive aims when in fact their goal is to beat up on other people.


I'm so glad you've finally come to see Consone's originally stated goals for what they really are.
Why Kumo...do I detect a hint of Trolling here?  Tongue


??? Do you guys even know the difference between KP and me?

LOL

I think the consensus around here is that anyone posting with a name that starts with a K is you. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 17:09
Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:

Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

I do believe that some participants in this war are trying to have their cake and eat it too -- proclaiming that they seek positive aims when in fact their goal is to beat up on other people.


I'm so glad you've finally come to see Consone's originally stated goals for what they really are.
Why Kumo...do I detect a hint of Trolling here?  Tongue


??? Do you guys even know the difference between KP and me?
hahaha...my apologies to Kumo....so use to seeing him all I saw was the K in the name.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 17:13
Originally posted by bansisdead bansisdead wrote:

Originally posted by Sliveen Sliveen wrote:

There have been tense moments in the very verbal war where trade and traiining alliances were afraid of trading with anyone involved in the war due to being seen as a sympathizer and get pulled into the war.


BSHx is directly affiliated with BSH, we have not been living in fear of WE attacks.  Cannot say anyone at BSHx is afraid in anyway.  If a trade alliance cannot make a killing during war time, they're in the wrong business!!!
hmmm...with so many alliances that have declared on us..I dont even know if we're at war with you guys...we're too outnumbered to go attacking all the alliances against us anyway.
and we dont live in fear even if we're being attacked by your affiliations.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 17:43
Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:

hahaha...my apologies to Kumo....so use to seeing him all I saw was the K in the name.


I'm quite happy to keep posting and have Kumo take the blame ;)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 17:45
Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:

Originally posted by bansisdead bansisdead wrote:

Originally posted by Sliveen Sliveen wrote:

There have been tense moments in the very verbal war where trade and traiining alliances were afraid of trading with anyone involved in the war due to being seen as a sympathizer and get pulled into the war.


BSHx is directly affiliated with BSH, we have not been living in fear of WE attacks.  Cannot say anyone at BSHx is afraid in anyway.  If a trade alliance cannot make a killing during war time, they're in the wrong business!!!
hmmm...with so many alliances that have declared on us..I dont even know if we're at war with you guys...we're too outnumbered to go attacking all the alliances against us anyway.
and we dont live in fear even if we're being attacked by your affiliations.


You won't be attacked by any BSHx members, and if you are inform Rorgash or myself.
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