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Points: 173 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 17:52
Prologue: I'm a complete newb, and admittedly feel a little out of my league posting in this thread with some of the big heavy hitters in here.

Having played some intense sand box type games before, thinking mainly of Eve-Online and DarkFall, I don't understand the side that says, "stop attacking us or we will leave the game."  I want to understand and I am listening.

My current perspective is summed up in a few points:
- If everyone else has to play a certain way for you to have fun, you are going to have a bad time.
- As Illyriad's popularity continues to grow there will more often be players who will not accept your community rules, ideals, ethos. (edit: By community rules, I mean the rules that the community has made up, like the 10-square rule, and the no attacking me rules - not the rules enforced by the devs/community managers)
- If this is a sandbox game, then people playing differently then you are not wrong.
- If your character in a game is at war, you can still be civil to the people behind the characters.
- Dying is fun. (Dwarf Fortress Trademark)
- If you build something you don't want destroyed in a game that allows annoymous people to destroy it, you are going to have a bad time.
- The sweet spots in Illyriad are finite.  Other people do/will want yours.
- Interesting conflicts will make more people join then leave.

No doubt some will agree and disagree strongly.  I reserve the right to change my mind.

Yours humbly,
--The player behind WeeAshley


Edited by WeeAshley - 11 Feb 2013 at 18:18
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Points: 609 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 17:45
Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:

Originally posted by bansisdead bansisdead wrote:

Originally posted by Sliveen Sliveen wrote:

There have been tense moments in the very verbal war where trade and traiining alliances were afraid of trading with anyone involved in the war due to being seen as a sympathizer and get pulled into the war.


BSHx is directly affiliated with BSH, we have not been living in fear of WE attacks.  Cannot say anyone at BSHx is afraid in anyway.  If a trade alliance cannot make a killing during war time, they're in the wrong business!!!
hmmm...with so many alliances that have declared on us..I dont even know if we're at war with you guys...we're too outnumbered to go attacking all the alliances against us anyway.
and we dont live in fear even if we're being attacked by your affiliations.


You won't be attacked by any BSHx members, and if you are inform Rorgash or myself.
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Points: 1853 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 17:43
Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:

hahaha...my apologies to Kumo....so use to seeing him all I saw was the K in the name.


I'm quite happy to keep posting and have Kumo take the blame ;)
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Points: 432 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 17:13
Originally posted by bansisdead bansisdead wrote:

Originally posted by Sliveen Sliveen wrote:

There have been tense moments in the very verbal war where trade and traiining alliances were afraid of trading with anyone involved in the war due to being seen as a sympathizer and get pulled into the war.


BSHx is directly affiliated with BSH, we have not been living in fear of WE attacks.  Cannot say anyone at BSHx is afraid in anyway.  If a trade alliance cannot make a killing during war time, they're in the wrong business!!!
hmmm...with so many alliances that have declared on us..I dont even know if we're at war with you guys...we're too outnumbered to go attacking all the alliances against us anyway.
and we dont live in fear even if we're being attacked by your affiliations.
NO..I dont do the Fandango!
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Points: 432 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 17:09
Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:

Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

I do believe that some participants in this war are trying to have their cake and eat it too -- proclaiming that they seek positive aims when in fact their goal is to beat up on other people.


I'm so glad you've finally come to see Consone's originally stated goals for what they really are.
Why Kumo...do I detect a hint of Trolling here?  Tongue


??? Do you guys even know the difference between KP and me?
hahaha...my apologies to Kumo....so use to seeing him all I saw was the K in the name.
NO..I dont do the Fandango!
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Points: 982 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 17:08
Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:

Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

I do believe that some participants in this war are trying to have their cake and eat it too -- proclaiming that they seek positive aims when in fact their goal is to beat up on other people.


I'm so glad you've finally come to see Consone's originally stated goals for what they really are.
Why Kumo...do I detect a hint of Trolling here?  Tongue


??? Do you guys even know the difference between KP and me?

LOL

I think the consensus around here is that anyone posting with a name that starts with a K is you. 
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Points: 2396 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 16:51
The war will continue until objectives have been achieved.
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Points: 609 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 16:49
Originally posted by Sliveen Sliveen wrote:

There have been tense moments in the very verbal war where trade and traiining alliances were afraid of trading with anyone involved in the war due to being seen as a sympathizer and get pulled into the war.


BSHx is directly affiliated with BSH, we have not been living in fear of WE attacks.  Cannot say anyone at BSHx is afraid in anyway.  If a trade alliance cannot make a killing during war time, they're in the wrong business!!!


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Personnaly I feel that the original post in this thread seemed to be appealing to the Dev's to stop this
 war in some way, in CK's reference to The Powers That Be.  Perhaps I mis-read that, but if not I feel this is rediculous.

Regarding whether the war should or not continue, it is clearly not strictly for me to say, being a neutral party, however from what I see over and over agin in these forum posts, there are players on both sides that wish it to continue and propegate it.  Therefore, clearly aslong as this happens the war will continue.

For anyone involved that wants out, the only option is either to find a new alliance (if a number of members of yours still propegate the war), or to kick those few players that do, so that your alliance can move forward in a peacefull direction.
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Points: 894 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 16:06
nope, its just getting started :D much more fun coming in the future!
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