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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 20:18
Originally posted by WeeAshley WeeAshley wrote:

 
I admittedly don't get it.  My best guess is that it has something to do with those parents who let their child win at games too often.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6wOt2iXdc4 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 20:15
Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:

Big talk from someone...who along with 8 other alliances attack one alliance!

See, having more allies in the attack just sounds smart to me - not insulting at all.  I mean, if you are going to battle it makes sense to stack the deck in your favour. No?  I'd hate to play other games with someone that said stuff like this:

Risk: "Big talk from someone... who has more armies than me."
Monopoly: "Big talk from someone... who has more money than me."
Tennis: "Big talk from someone... who has taken more lessons than me."
Football: "Big talk from someone... who has more superbowl wins than me."
Crazy 8s: "Big talk from someone... who has more 8s than me."

I admittedly don't get it.  My best guess is that it has something to do with those parents who let their child win at games too often.

“Never fight fair with a stranger, boy. You'll never get out of the jungle that way.”

Edit: quote formatting.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 19:59
now now, no need to get serious about these people bel argyle, we enjoy making fun of them and we enjoy their talks :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 19:25
Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:

Big talk from someone...who along with 8 other alliances attack one alliance!
Oh, would you STOP... You declared war, you got involved, and now you are AT war.
Initially you had 6 Consone alliances against one (Harmless).. didn't here you shouting how unfair that was. Let's look at another ... How many are at war with VIC, that is us against one well... OH WAIT, no it isn't, because you are all basically one big confederation of allaince who work together yet are separate to some undefinable extent. 

Therefore, you being at war, makes those who are IN the war also against you. So it isn't just us against WE and you complaining how unfair it is.. it is us against Consone alliances. WE does not wish to get out of the war, WE desires to stay and in continue IN the war. If you wanted out you could have taken the myriad of opportunities we gave you (more than any other alliances in this war) and the initial negotiations were very very reasonable.

War is what War is, it is one group(s) stating we will militarily force you to submit or wipe you down to a point where whether or not you verbally will submit, your reduction forces places you in a position where logistical opposition is almost non-existent.

When Consone chose to go 6 on 1 against Harmless, that was their intent. When Harmless friends got involved, we said we will take your challenge and make it our own goal. 

You stepped into the war, as did we... surrender and make peace, or continue till peace is made. In either case.. peace will come.. soon or eventually.. it is your decision as to when. We offer it now - surrender.. or you can choose to continue the war.. that is YOUR choice and thus the war continues based on YOU.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 19:22
Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:

hahaha...my apologies to Kumo....so use to seeing him all I saw was the K in the name.


I'm quite happy to keep posting and have Kumo take the blame ;)


Let's harken back to our standardized testing and do a little word association:

"Kumo" is to "Blame" as "Swiffer" is to "Dust"... ;)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 19:14
Originally posted by WeeAshley WeeAshley wrote:

My current perspective is summed up in a few points:
- If everyone else has to play a certain way for you to have fun, you are going to have a bad time.
- As Illyriad's popularity continues to grow there will more often be players who will not accept your community rules, ideals, ethos. (edit: By community rules, I mean the rules that the community has made up, like the 10-square rule, and the no attacking me rules - not the rules enforced by the devs/community managers)
- If this is a sandbox game, then people playing differently then you are not wrong.
- If your character in a game is at war, you can still be civil to the people behind the characters.
- Dying is fun. (Dwarf Fortress Trademark)
- If you build something you don't want destroyed in a game that allows annoymous people to destroy it, you are going to have a bad time.
- The sweet spots in Illyriad are finite.  Other people do/will want yours.
- Interesting conflicts will make more people join then leave.

No doubt some will agree and disagree strongly.  I reserve the right to change my mind.

Yours humbly,
--The player behind WeeAshley

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Well, I totally agree on those and I'd like to add something about the people that say "we spent money/time on our towns, we do not want to see them destroyed." 

Ok, this is reasonable, BUT why should they be destroyed .?. It is not set in stone that you will lose ! Don't you want the challenge to make your towns better and better and better .?. How will this be achieved if someone doesn't challenge you .?. 

I attacked someone with a larger account during the war and he was without ANY defence whatsoever - no wards, no thieves, no blights (no mana blights landed on him O_o), no assassins, no sabs, no spears ... just plain cavalry aaaaall the way, so he counter-attacked and smashed all my cities.

And now .?. He fixed most of all those problems and his defence is rock solid and he immediately raised the antes and we are still at it and with a great spirit, I'd say, and in a quite polite manner between us ( as you said a conflict in a game, does not equate rudeness nor bad behaviour ). Didn't the war make him use his knowledge of the game and actually implement more and more of the game mechanics instead of sitting placidly on his huge population account thinking that noone will ever attack him .?. 

It did and frankly I am happy about it because instead of the usual nag one can meet in such cases, he behaved honourably and we are both enjoying the challenge of trying to outwit each other and this is FUN ! What is a game without a challenge, anyway .?.  

Just my two cents on the matter ... 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 18:57
Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:

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Big talk from someone...who along with 8 other alliances attack one alliance!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 18:56
oh, im no more then a footsoldier.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 18:43
Originally posted by Rorgash Rorgash wrote:

"- As Illyriad's popularity continues to grow there will more often be players who will not accept your community rules, ideals, ethos."

This part is protected by the ancient gods of Illyriad, and as such will be protected. but being gods and not written stone tablets these might change over time.

Soup tried and failed in challenging the gods, and in so failed to implement their own rules, ideals and ethos.
Big talk from someone...who along with 8 other alliances attack one alliance!
NO..I dont do the Fandango!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 18:04
"- As Illyriad's popularity continues to grow there will more often be players who will not accept your community rules, ideals, ethos."

This part is protected by the ancient gods of Illyriad, and as such will be protected. but being gods and not written stone tablets these might change over time.

Soup tried and failed in challenging the gods, and in so failed to implement their own rules, ideals and ethos.
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