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Captain Kindly
Forum Warrior
Joined: 19 Aug 2011
Location: Fremorn
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Points: 276
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Topic: This ****ing war Posted: 10 Feb 2013 at 16:20 |
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I am not sure if the powers that be are aware. I am though. People are leaving this game because of it, and I am thinking of doing the same, because I am disgusted.
There has been enough slanter from both sides in these forums, in many threads, so choosing right or wrong is no longer an issue.
This war has effected the game.
H?, you have won. But your demands are so ridiculous that I think you do not want to end this war. Are you aiming for anniliating?
If not, get reasonable. You always say you are not bullies. Prove it.
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bansisdead
Postmaster
Joined: 08 Jan 2012
Location: UK
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Points: 609
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Posted: 10 Feb 2013 at 16:32 |
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I think this post is ridiculous, I am disgusted! and I'm leaving..... the forums...... for now!
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Gemley
Postmaster
Joined: 20 Feb 2011
Location: Ralidor
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Points: 586
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Posted: 10 Feb 2013 at 17:44 |
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Captain you really think acting like this will help you?
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�I do not love the bright sword for it's sharpness, nor the arrow for it's swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend� - J.R.R. Tolkien
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wolfeater
New Poster
Joined: 20 Jan 2013
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Points: 6
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Posted: 10 Feb 2013 at 17:49 |
the game if meant to be fun not stressfull as for the war that illy in a nut shell if you dont like it start a trade alliance thats not war minded simple
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The_Dude
Postmaster General
Joined: 06 Apr 2010
Location: Texas
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Points: 2396
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Posted: 10 Feb 2013 at 17:53 |
CK,
What do you think the demands are? Why do you think those demands are ridiculous?
The essential element of war is breaking the will of the opponent to continue to resist.
Players that choose to leave Illy because their will has been broken are free to do so. Many players have simply exited the warring alliances to non-warring alliances when their will has been broken.
In Illy, only the player himself can take himself out of the game by quitting.
CK, if you are not enjoying Illy for what it is - entertainment - then you should either find a way to enjoy Illy or move on to a new entertainment venue.
Emotional Blackmail will not work, though.
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Starry
Postmaster
Joined: 20 Mar 2010
Location: California
Status: Offline
Points: 612
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Posted: 10 Feb 2013 at 17:54 |
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Good grief, you aren't even fighting in the war......stop complaining.
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CEO, Harmless? Founder of Toothless?
"Truth never dies." -HonoredMule
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RatuJone
Greenhorn
Joined: 15 Jul 2011
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Points: 67
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Posted: 10 Feb 2013 at 18:06 |
@ Captain Kindly (a character from a 'warring' world) Seems to me your 'mother' alliance was one of the earliest aggressors. If aggressors are vanquished they're usually required to make reparation to the victors. Fairly straightforward, and normal practice.
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I'm pretty Harmless, really :)
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jeantall
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Joined: 13 Feb 2012
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Points: 6
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Posted: 10 Feb 2013 at 20:15 |
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Bringing this to the forums helps no one and even further drags it out even further. If you don't like their terms suggest new ones that are worth it but more agreeable for your side. They do have a mediator to talk to about it and try to come up with better options.
There are many options to consider for both sides and I doubt they are so single minded that that is the only option they would even be willing to accept. Be reasonable with your reply's and don't get frustrated with them. For Example if someone pulled a gun on you and you happened to take it form him. If the man who originally had gun just wanted to bygones now that you have the gun would you let him?(This is not in any example to how the war happened in anyway) All and all they have won the war and now have you at gun point.
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abstractdream
Postmaster General
Joined: 02 Oct 2011
Location: Oarnamly
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Points: 1857
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Posted: 10 Feb 2013 at 22:09 |
Captain Kindly wrote:
There has been enough slanter | assume you mean slander?
Captain Kindly wrote:
from both sides in these forums, | ...but you figured, why not add more?
Captain Kindly wrote:
....choosing right or wrong is no longer an issue. | Really? So why does Consone fight on?
Captain Kindly wrote:
H?... your demands are so ridiculous that I think you do not want to end this war. | It WOULD extend their fun...let's face it, when you hit 10 cities, what else is there to do?
Captain Kindly wrote:
... get reasonable. You always say you are not bullies. Prove it. | Why? Why should they prove anything...beyond the fact that they have already defeated all comers.
Edited by abstractdream - 10 Feb 2013 at 22:13
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Bonfyr Verboo
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Deranzin
Postmaster
Joined: 10 Oct 2011
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Points: 845
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Posted: 10 Feb 2013 at 22:37 |
Suppose now that your alliance uses 100000 Knights to break a siege from an unalliagned player and then retaliates on that player who then asks for peace terms.
You say then : "One knight costs 5800 gold, we lost 100000, so we want 580.000.000 gold !!!" 
The other player goes in the forums to nag on how "unreasonable" you are ... and people that do not know the facts might take him for face value, but anyone that does notice the actual COST of building troops and then does a simple multiplication immediately knows better.
So, I do not know what terms you find unreasonable, but I mention that particular one because some time ago I had some IGMs from your side nagging about it, and thought to simply point out some small facts. 
On a side note : If anyone explains to me in a REASONABLE way why someone would abandon the whole game because of this war, instead of moving to a peaceful/training/trading alliance, I 'd be very grateful.
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