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HonoredMule 
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 Posted: 02 May 2011 at 23:19 |
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Ah, those devious materminds, lead by the alma matermind.
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Createure
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Posted: 02 May 2011 at 23:09 |
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I heard that self-deprication was the first sign of a criminal matermind trying to conceal their true identity.
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Kumomoto
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Posted: 02 May 2011 at 22:33 |
 The_Dude wrote:
As noted by HM, the top alliances are well-led and the brass all seem to have good political skills.
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I thought I'd thoroughly convinced you by now of my general incompetence in addition to my moral turpitude... Obviously I can add puerile communications skills to my list of character attributes... ;)
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HonoredMule
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Posted: 02 May 2011 at 21:38 |
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That name sounds familiar...yes, he tried to go out in a blaze of glory on me. I told him my response would be patient but resolute, and he offered restitution and said he'd pick another target--after his attacks started landing and found only empty cities with the resources stripped and armies camping outside. I wasn't about to let the matter distract me from the tournament.
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The_Dude
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Posted: 02 May 2011 at 21:28 |
Any time there is competition, there is the possibility of things going beyond the original circumstances. In short, the tournaments are designed to upset the apple cart so that we have something to do and ponder. As noted by HM, the top alliances are well-led and the brass all seem to have good political skills. The prizes and glory for winning a tournament probably do not justify the risk of loss that a war would bring.
BTW, I heard a rumor about Boromir recently being attacked by Kelrath and the concern was that this was in connection with the tournament. But I think that was Kelrath leaving Illy in a blaze of glory.
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bow locks
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Posted: 02 May 2011 at 20:26 |
very nice op. Bow
ooops. not meant to just agree. must discuss.
ok,
the following;
The tournaments were not created to precede and catalyze mass chaos, but as an outlet for competition without the fear of complete destruction
I think the GMs know exactly what they are doing and you miss the subtlety.
The same with the slippery slope.
Edited by bow locks - 02 May 2011 at 20:29
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HonoredMule
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Posted: 02 May 2011 at 20:22 |
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I respect your opinion Makanalani. I would suggest, however, that the "slippery slope" argument is a misdirection of focus away from whomever actually does go too far. The very core of its premise recognizes that the steps taken so far do not, and are therefore above true reproach.
More direct hostile actions would certainly lead to grudges that well outlast the tournament, and I agree that such might be a rather disappointing way to earn emnity (however exciting some true conflict might be). Bearing no ill will toward VALAR, Boromir, and any other temporary members, I do not wish to breed any opposition extending beyond the context of the tournament and its transient goals. And having avoided actions which would improve our position but also damage VALAR beyond that scope, I will not take responsibility for any grudge they may carry beyond the tournament.
Also knowing the integrity and cool heads that prevail in the leading alliances, I'm confident that they would not be a part of any such unfortunate escalation either. We would not so eagerly anticipate tournaments if they did not give us opportunity to truly test our mettle in contest without bruised egos and lasting grudges. I believe that VALAR, standing among the honorable themselves, will carry their altered opinion of Harmless not into the battlefield, but into the next tournament. That is a fair consequence, which we fully expect to face.
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Sloter5
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Posted: 02 May 2011 at 20:20 |
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It is fair game i think to use diplos for that, you were just first that came up with that idea.That strategy will work both ways eventualy when Valar also start to use it.Having in mind that they are more activ and have more members (even smallest player can send one bird)this new usage of diplos might actualy go in their favor.
I for one am happy with all that, Valar being pressed harder to fight for largest colection will make harder for them to keep fighting for uniq colection.
I think Valar will win first place even with new diplo strategy that is used to slow them down,i doubt that it would be enough to tip the balance.
Sorry for bad English people, as long as people understand what i say its good enough.
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Makanalani
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Posted: 02 May 2011 at 19:05 |
While I admit that your tactics are not against the rules HonoredMule, I think it is important for the tide of public sentiment to not solely be a wave of agreement, but rather a discussion. To respond on your defense of diplomatic action I think that the road you walk is a slippery slope with regard to foreign affairs. While it may start with the hampering of troop deployment, who is to say that these actions do not escalate into more tangible forcible attacks? It may start out as an attempt to use metagame tactics to even the playing field, however I foresee a large possibility for world war. The tournaments were not created to precede and catalyze mass chaos, but as an outlet for competition without the fear of complete destruction. This is merely food for thought HM in terms of a global discussion.
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"Life is a beautiful struggle"
-New IGN: Mak (Dark Blight)
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The_Dude
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Posted: 02 May 2011 at 18:01 |
I like the tactic.
It never occured to me that diplos would also freeze an NPC from respawning. As I understood the tourney write-up, the big NPC groups are supposed to yield more parts, but my experience has not borne that out.
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