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GM Rikoo 
Moderator Group
Community & PR Manager
Joined: 28 Mar 2014
Location: Mars
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Points: 1233
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 Topic: The State of the Community
Posted: 26 Apr 2014 at 14:36 |
Closing the thread. Obviously I can't ask you all to stop discussing things that happen between a player and a GM, because it won't happen. It leads to the phone game which only leads to more people thinking they know what happened, when in fact that did not.
In the future, I'll have to keep this in mind.
For the record, Twist and anyone else who has been silenced survived the procedure. I can assure you that they did not, indeed, die horribly. 
GM Rikoo
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Illyriad Community Manager / Public Relations / community@illyriad.co.uk
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bansisdead
Postmaster
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Location: UK
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Posted: 26 Apr 2014 at 14:03 |
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I agree deranzin, obviously Sir Twist's behaviour was not the reason ppl left, I doubt one person left becasue of it. I do not agree that Coltaine's comments are flaming though, that in my opinion is a slight exaggeration, and regardless of involvement in the situation we are all allowed an opinion on this subject.
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Deranzin
Postmaster
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Posted: 26 Apr 2014 at 13:27 |
 bansisdead wrote:
Lwyllyn, Is Coltaine not allowed to state an opinion?
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Every opinion is obviously allowed ... but don't you think that an opinion that shoves the yearly-long wave of players leaving the game on to a particular player's mode of behavior is a bit over the top .?. Also, using epithets on people without "backing them up" goes a bit beyond the "hey that is my opinion" and an elaboration should be in order to avoid misunderstandings.  Last, but not least, getting annoyed from people that complain when they feel that they had been wronged is quite a feat ... aren't they entitled to their opinions .?. 
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  Just like a "before and after" ad ! ahahahaah :p
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bansisdead
Postmaster
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Posted: 26 Apr 2014 at 13:14 |
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Lwyllyn, Is Coltaine not allowed to state an opinion?
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Lwyllyn
Wordsmith
Joined: 03 Mar 2013
Location: Humboldt
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Posted: 26 Apr 2014 at 10:52 |
Really, Coltaine? SirTwist's style of complaining is why people are leaving? Really? SirTwist is likely the least aggressive member of our community! And yes, I went about much of this the wrong way. But the incident that set this off was just one of several. Those of us who consider the folks in GC to be family take a chat ban seriously. Maybe, unlike some of us, you have a social life outside of Illy. Maybe you don't live 10 miles from your closest neighbor, and only need to sit on your doorstep to talk to your friends. Maybe you are a loner who doesn't need friends. Maybe you can just shut off GC without a second thought. Maybe you haven't a clue why this thread exists. Most of the forum members who have posted on this thread have had issues with how GC is being handled. Most posts are in support of one perspective or another. And many of the posters were there when this started. And most have something to add, rather than merely trolling someone's opinion. Except you. You haven't had a run-in with GM Rikoo, you weren't there, and not one word of your two posts was constructive. This is a discussion (or debate, or argument, whatever) about the GC community. You seem to have no desire to be a part of that community, so why are you posting flame attacks in this thread? Just the same way you can shut off chat because you don't like what folks say there, you can choose not to follow this thread. Omigod, did I just have to explain the obvious, again? 
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Twist
Wordsmith
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Posted: 26 Apr 2014 at 10:06 |
"aggressively complaining? could you give an example of said aggression? I really would like to avoid being agressive in the future and would appreciate your help in this....
as for the complaining bit..... I was questioning the impartiality and complaints process itself, when a petition is handled by the very person the petition is complaining about (I apologise if I have been aggressive in this post also, as I said, I would appreciate your guidance and help so I can be more docile, more.... compliant rather than complaining ;)
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Coltaine Blackwing
Greenhorn
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Posted: 26 Apr 2014 at 09:22 |
I find it depressing that Twist is aggressively complaining about getting silenced for complaining about something that someone else apologized for...thereby admitting that they did something wrong to begin with.
This sort of thoughtlessness is why people are leaving. And then they have the gall to blame it on someone else. I'd rather have an empty game than one full of people shedding their maturity like it's gone out of fashion. Learn from your alliancemate, please.
Edited by Coltaine Blackwing - 26 Apr 2014 at 09:23
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bansisdead
Postmaster
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Posted: 26 Apr 2014 at 08:59 |
Twist wrote:
it seems that GM's deem themselves the Gods of Illy, and are above criticism, if you dare, be prepared to be silenced |
I had a recent disagreement with a GM in GC, I had quite the opposite response from said GM. He didn't close the argument down instead tried to reason with me, even thought I was right :p I have a lot more respect for him now.
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Evae
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Location: California
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Posted: 26 Apr 2014 at 07:51 |
You Banned Twist??? Really?
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KillerPoodle
Postmaster General
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Posted: 25 Apr 2014 at 15:20 |
Twist wrote:
it seems that GM's deem themselves the Gods of Illy
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It's possible to be a God and still be kind, understanding, forgiving and benevolent.
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