The Spin

Epidemic wrote: I'll be more than happy to keep track of all razed/exodus cities, if you send me the info. I also will add  categories for inactive/permasat accounts taken out of the game i.e.(Beecks) and a list of players who abandon the game because of this war.

Epidemic the problem is not who will compile the information, but what IS the information and whether people consider the sources of said information accurate and/or trustworthy. In that regard I do not think that anyone needs an outside accountant/auditor/scorekeeper and that the common practice of each side keeping its own score till the bitter end will continue to flourish in this case, as well.

Oh and it appears that H? just lost 2 more towns since this thread started, better add them as well.

Elmindra wrote: One last time, a quick look of H? towns show at least 10 towns lost within the last few weeks, a quick look of NC towns show at least 5 towns lost within the last few weeks.  Quite a bit of population loss on a lot of towns which may or may not be exodus.

Oh, another "client" with the population loss ... so, Elmindra, now you are telling us the population counts are a good way to count someone's battle capabilities .?. One must wonder why you people argued so much against that standard in the case of NC being stacked upon by a much larger conglomeration of opponents in population.

Double standards are always amusing, but do try to keep a relative time distance before applying them in similar situations because the whole matter becomes ludicrous.

This thread reminds me of a similar discussion in the Consone war where they were trying to convince us that we were not doing any damage because in the weekly counts Consone as a group was in fact GROWING (back then they were counting city numbers iirc), ergo it must have been doing something right and we were barely scratching them.

I might find that post tomorrow, if this thread keeps in the current direction.


Edited by Deranzin - 17 Nov 2013 at 21:59

Elmindra wrote: Deranzin, did I even once say that population counts as a gauge of battle strength?  You quoted me but forgot to read, but I will say it again.  Quite a bit of population loss on a lot of towns which may or may not be exodus.  That is a pretty simple sentence, but I will elaborate.  When I see a person with 10 towns and 7 are legendary and 3 are at exodus population levels then I would assume it's a possible exodus, which may or may not be a direct result of the war.  Pretty sure that is simple, but I am more than happy to repeat myself.

Oh, I did read ... if you mention it as a fact and you do not believe that it has any meaning, as you seem to do in your elaboration, then you are just tossing meaningless (even for you) numbers around, just to create an impression. "That is a pretty simple sentence" too

Also saying that "I would assume it's a possible exodus, which may or may not be a direct result of the war" is indeed nice of you, but look what The_Duke said  a couple of posts ago :

The Duke wrote: Too many assumptions in one post , you know that old saying right.

I do not know what "old saying" he is referring at, btw, but I am just quoting it because you people should eventually decide on ONE STANDARD and apply to ALL CASES, else we are going to end up with monster threads like in the Consone War, just in trying to understand what your position on a matter is.

So, if The_Duke thinks that he can evade and do away with a post that contained only one fact (and one very logical assumption directly derived by it) by saying that thing, I can only guess how credible he would think your post with three assumptions in a row which you yourself admit that you cannot validate.

Consistency people ... consistency !

i just wanna point out to all those concerned that i caught your movie references. and it was actually the bright point in reading through all of this.  especially the one from troy, cause that's a pretty good movie.   but i prefer  " You won't have eyes tonight; you won't have ears or a tongue. You will wander the underworld blind, deaf, and dumb, and all the dead will know: This is Hector. The fool who thought he killed Achilles"