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Angrim 
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Joined: 02 Nov 2011
Location: Laoshin
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 Posted: 13 Oct 2013 at 21:43 |
 Brandmeister wrote:
Sir A, this entire thread exists because a crow alliance has declared war on a non-crow alliance. |
i think the discussion has run its course, but as a point of information, this thread precedes uCrow's declaration and was made in response to theoretical statements made in gc. events afterward cannot really be said to be a reason for the OP; at best, my post and uCrow's declaration were spawned by a common cause (6-OCT).
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Sir A
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Joined: 26 Sep 2012
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Points: 121
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Posted: 11 Oct 2013 at 16:58 |
Le Roux wrote:
it is nearly impossible to paint the crowfed with a single brush . . . |
That may be true, however many folk in this thread seem to be speaking on behalf of the entire crowalition ("The crowfed does this" , "the crowfed did that") and in that context they are painting themselves with a single brush. [/QUOTE]
I wonder what color brush that is  .
I am not a spokesperson for the entire Crowfed by any means but I know the principles we stand for and was merely making it public since some people seem to be so interested.
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KillerPoodle
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Joined: 23 Feb 2010
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Posted: 11 Oct 2013 at 16:16 |
Le Roux wrote:
"Bloc Quebecois"
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Is that a kind of cheese? 
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"This is a bad idea and we shouldn't do it." - endorsement by HM
"a little name-calling is a positive thing." - Rill
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Le Roux
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Joined: 30 May 2012
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Posted: 11 Oct 2013 at 16:07 |
KillerPoodle wrote:
[QUOTE=Sir A] ...
That may be true, however many folk in this thread seem to be speaking on behalf of the entire crowalition ("The crowfed does this" , "the crowfed did that") and in that context they are painting themselves with a single brush.
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Well, fortunately or unfortunately, I no longer speak as leadership of anything other than the "Bloc Quebecois" faction within vCrow, so take nothing I say as gospel of anything more than my own perspective. . .
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Brandmeister
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Joined: 12 Oct 2012
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Posted: 11 Oct 2013 at 15:46 |
Sir A wrote:
How is the Crowfed stifling PvP warfare in Illyriad? |
You'd have to ask the people proposing that idea.
Sir A wrote:
As I've said before we do not interfere in other alliances' wars so any alliance can fight any non-Crow alliance and we will not interfere or judge them. |
Sir A, this entire thread exists because a crow alliance has declared war on a non-crow alliance. uCrow was allied with the Celtic Knights, and has voluntarily entered their war with the Night Crusaders. uCrow declared war after a very heated verbal exchange between Tamaeon and Sir Bradly several days ago. I fully support the right of every alliance to fight on behalf of their friends. I don't know why any alliance, including Crow alliances, would apologize for that.
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KillerPoodle
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Posted: 11 Oct 2013 at 15:23 |
Sir A wrote:
There was talk of the Crowfed joining in near the end when it seemed like it would never end but that was mostly hearsay as far as I know. |
Um, no again. There is no hearsay about it, it is a fact.
Le Roux wrote:
it is nearly impossible to paint the crowfed with a single brush . . . |
That may be true, however many folk in this thread seem to be speaking on behalf of the entire crowalition ("The crowfed does this" , "the crowfed did that") and in that context they are painting themselves with a single brush. |
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"This is a bad idea and we shouldn't do it." - endorsement by HM
"a little name-calling is a positive thing." - Rill
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Sir A
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Joined: 26 Sep 2012
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Posted: 11 Oct 2013 at 14:01 |
Brandmeister wrote:
He didn't say anyone was bullying. He implied that Crowfed's size and play style are stifling PvP warfare in Illyriad. I think the time investment and community sentiment have more to do with the absence of constant war than any organized snuggle brigade. Even though the community might frown upon wars, that hasn't stopped a bunch of alliances from punching each other senseless this year. |
How is the Crowfed stifling PvP warfare in Illyriad? As I've said before we do not interfere in other alliances' wars so any alliance can fight any non-Crow alliance and we will not interfere or judge them. The best example is probably the recent Consone war. Could we have joined either side? Yes. But we stayed out. There have been countless wars since Illyriad started and not once has the Crowfed jumped in. So I don't see why people think we are the Illy Police (we are more like the U.N.  ) or how the Crowfed is preventing PvP from happening.
The only thing the existence of the Crowfed might be discouraging is PvP warfare vs Crow alliances. But we are a loose confederation so that does not necessarily mean that if an alliance attacks a Crow alliance the entire Confed would declare on that alliance. We really do deal farily with diplomatic issues. Which by definition makes us a defensive Confederation. I think large Confederations actually add more complexity to the political environment in Elgea. And of course there are more Confederations out there than just the Crowfed. Unfortunately most of them choose to remain 'secret' until something happens.
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Brandmeister
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Posted: 11 Oct 2013 at 05:59 |
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He didn't say anyone was bullying. He implied that Crowfed's size and play style are stifling PvP warfare in Illyriad. I think the time investment and community sentiment have more to do with the absence of constant war than any organized snuggle brigade. Even though the community might frown upon wars, that hasn't stopped a bunch of alliances from punching each other senseless this year.
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Le Roux
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Posted: 11 Oct 2013 at 05:58 |
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To be fair, there were people within Crow, much like the rest of Illy, some who favored Consone and some who favored H?, I do not think there was a consensus either way, especially given the greatly divergent views within the various wings. both KP's perspective and Sir A's are correct likely based on those with whom they had the most connection . . . it is nearly impossible to paint the crowfed with a single brush . . .
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Sir A
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Posted: 11 Oct 2013 at 04:21 |
KillerPoodle wrote:
Actually Sir A - some crows were ready to get into the Consone war on the side of H? but we asked them to stay out to try to keep things fair numbers wise...
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"We have done and continue to do our best to stay out of wars."
As I said we do our best to stay uninvolved just as H? does from what I have seen. There was talk of the Crowfed joining in near the end when it seemed like it would never end but that was mostly hearsay as far as I know. I can tell you that when the conflict first began we had a leadership meeting and agreed unanimously that we would stay out of it and we encouraged our members not to say anything about either side in GC but if they simply could not resist we told them to make it clear that their statements were their own and not the official stance of the Crowfed. Either way we did not get involved so there is that.
That being said, do you think the Crowfed is a threat to H? or any other alliance in Illyriad and if so, why? Examples of Crows bullying would be great.
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