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Capricorne
Wordsmith
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Posted: 21 Oct 2013 at 15:42 |
? Er... The rest aside, do you mean that one needs to be backed when fighting at 5:1 odds? Well, if one need it, one just deserve what he'll get don't you think?
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KillerPoodle
Postmaster General
Joined: 23 Feb 2010
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Posted: 21 Oct 2013 at 15:19 |
Darkwords wrote:
however I would say that overall it is clear that this was nothing but a poor attempt with no background as there has been nothing presented here to back up that argument, or counter the claim published here that the Crow family is overall a peaceful block within Illyria.
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You mean aside from the fact that a certain crow wing is currently pursuing an unjustified personal vendetta at 5:1 odds in their favour, trying their hardest to escalate it and until recently was expecting a bunch of other crow wings to back them up?
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"This is a bad idea and we shouldn't do it." - endorsement by HM
"a little name-calling is a positive thing." - Rill
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Ander
Postmaster General
Joined: 24 Apr 2011
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Points: 1269
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Posted: 21 Oct 2013 at 15:17 |
Tordenkaffen wrote:
Seems to me that the Crows(of any feather) want their old role back as the in-between guys while others went gungho on eachother. ...... ... ... ... Id like to hear from ScottFitz on the matter.
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scottfitz wrote:
I too, Capricorne, yearn for an older vision of what it meant to be a Crow |
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Brandmeister
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Joined: 12 Oct 2012
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Posted: 21 Oct 2013 at 13:20 |
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Crowfed is a coalition for mutual defense, with an emphasis on casual gamer membership. Voluntarily entering a war is not defense. If all wings are expected to fight, then all wings must be consulted prior to entering battle, and a consensus must be reached. Otherwise one wing could commit all the others to war without their prior consultation or consent, and that doesn't make any sense.
If uCrow had been attacked, I think every wing would have declared war without hesitation and rallied to their defense.
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Darkwords
Postmaster General
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Posted: 21 Oct 2013 at 09:44 |
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I think the point to the original post made here; is not that we do not stand united, more that the Crows operate in a manner through which we are united when there is just cause.
In my opinion this pattern has helped Crows grow to a strong size, whilst preventing our confederation from harboring and defending bully-gamers. This stands in stark contrast to other power blocks within Illy, as they generally attract and recruit members who merely wish to take advantage of an alliances / confederations size, strength and aggression; therefore allowing them to take advantage of other, unaligned players.
This thread was started because a certain faction within Illy was trying to paint a picture through GC propaganda that the Crows were a threat to smaller players or alliances, however I would say that overall it is clear that this was nothing but a poor attempt with no background as there has been nothing presented here to back up that argument, or counter the claim published here that the Crow family is overall a peaceful block within Illyria.
However, with this in mind people should take care in regards to our confederation, as has been made clear; we do have a policy to stand united when faced with aggression or threats.
Disclaimer: this is merely from personal opinion I am not even a mouthpiece for vCrow and as has been clarified there is no central spokesperson for our entire federation.
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scottfitz
Forum Warrior
Joined: 22 Apr 2010
Location: Spokane WA USA
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Posted: 21 Oct 2013 at 03:18 |
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I too, Capricorne, yearn for an older vision of what it meant to be a Crow
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Capricorne
Wordsmith
Joined: 15 May 2011
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Posted: 21 Oct 2013 at 00:30 |
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@ Rill: I know you were just picturing a situation there so keep cool, I didn't want to throw it at you but just express some of my feelings here ;)
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Capricorne
Wordsmith
Joined: 15 May 2011
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Posted: 21 Oct 2013 at 00:23 |
Rill wrote:
Speaking for the Crowalition ... good luck finding anyone who can speak for the Crowalition.
Crows are defined more by common caws than common cause ... |
Well, as a
long time member of The Crows I’m a bit shaked and frustrated ti read this
tread and this last quote in particular.
Maybe as an
old fashinned Crow I didn’t saw my world evolve but I always thought that all
the new crow alliance was created to expand the number of our friends by
breaking the regular limit of a single alliance membership and so, in the
end... let’s dare it: expend our power. Be the best. Rule the wold, say it as
you wish that part is just a point of view...
So I really
believed that we had a common cause. Basicaly, protect each other no matter
what and help each other grow and prosper. I believed that the name we share,
that I’m so proud of wearing, bound us to each other.
If a Crow
alliance do not believe in a common cause that bind us in the crowfed, then
just let your crow name away. Cause you just don’t deserve it. A starting Crow
alliance certainly is happy to be sure to not being bullyed by any other just
because they are Crow labelled. And they are certainly happy too to use the
Crows notoriety to recruit new players easily. So you have an easy start thanks
to the name that all the prior Crow alliances have allow you to use and you
think that it is not a must to be at one with the rest of your familly? Really,
I’m so sad to read it...
So ok,
maybe I’m just an elder in the Crowfed who have not seen his world changing. Maybe
I just have to adapt myself...
But it
isn’t what I’ve signed for at first... Do you?
Respectfully,
Capricorne.
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Rill
Postmaster General
Player Council - Geographer
Joined: 17 Jun 2011
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Posted: 16 Oct 2013 at 06:30 |
Speaking for the Crowalition ... good luck finding anyone who can speak for the Crowalition.
Crows are defined more by common caws than common cause ...
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HATHALDIR
Forum Warrior
Joined: 01 Jul 2011
Location: Adelaide
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Points: 380
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Posted: 14 Oct 2013 at 11:13 |
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Loves reading someone else's thread get hijacked! Consistancy is important!
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There's worse blokes than me!!
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