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Myrin
Greenhorn
Joined: 06 Oct 2011
Location: Illinois
Status: Offline
Points: 52
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Posted: 03 Jun 2012 at 00:38 |
I found this thread a little late, however, I think Rill's post on page one was way out of line. I didn't see anything said that they were condemning how other people play the game. The members of TLR merely stated how they work in their alliance. I find your statement to be confrontational and inappropriate particularly since this was a place for them to recruit like minded players.
Rill, your statement that you disagree with their philosophy proves that there are two different ways of looking at it. They mentioned no other alliance and didn't say that those who thought differently were wrong. You came into their recruitment post and turned it into something controversial. Personally, I think your post on page one should be removed.
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Rill
Postmaster General
Player Council - Geographer
Joined: 17 Jun 2011
Location: California
Status: Offline
Points: 6903
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Posted: 03 Jun 2012 at 01:24 |
Myrin wrote:
I found this thread a little late, however, I think Rill's post on page one was way out of line. I didn't see anything said that they were condemning how other people play the game. The members of TLR merely stated how they work in their alliance. I find your statement to be confrontational and inappropriate particularly since this was a place for them to recruit like minded players.
Rill, your statement that you disagree with their philosophy proves that there are two different ways of looking at it. They mentioned no other alliance and didn't say that those who thought differently were wrong. You came into their recruitment post and turned it into something controversial. Personally, I think your post on page one should be removed. |
I disagree. However, I see little point in re-hashing all the arguments. So I will not.
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Garth
Forum Warrior
Joined: 10 May 2012
Location: Somewhere, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 249
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Posted: 03 Jun 2012 at 10:05 |
Myrin wrote:
Rill, your statement that you disagree with their philosophy proves that there are two different ways of looking at it. They mentioned no other alliance and didn't say that those who thought differently were wrong. You came into their recruitment post and turned it into something controversial. Personally, I think your post on page one should be removed. | You're of course entitled to your opinion. A little context and a different perspective: The recruitment thread was started Jan 19th. The secondary post, that Rill responded too, was posted Apr 15th, nearly 3 months later. To imply that Rill tried to hijack the recruitment thread ignores the sequence of events, IMO. Additionally, if you had been lurking around Global Chat at that time, you'd know that there was a considerable amount of criticism directed at certain players for the practice of welcome vans. I myself was accused of using it as a recruitment ploy. As I told Eternal Fire at the time, I send plenty of vans to players for whom I think my alliance is probably a bad fit. And tbh, I'm not generally an aggressive recruiter; no one in my alliance is. Primarily, though, here's the rub: according to the Apr 15th post, there are two basic attitudes; 1) welcome players warmly with hugs and gifts, 2) Encourage players to be self-sufficient. The two are not mutually exclusive!!!I believe Rill is justified in objecting to the idea that (for example) when I send 1500 of the 4 basic res to a new player, verbally welcome them to the game, and answer any questions they might have, that means I'm making a player who will be dependent. It's hogwash.
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Rill
Postmaster General
Player Council - Geographer
Joined: 17 Jun 2011
Location: California
Status: Offline
Points: 6903
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Posted: 03 Jun 2012 at 19:30 |
1500 is way too much Garthen. I understand Ryelle only sends 750.
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Silent/Steadfast
Postmaster
Joined: 03 Jun 2011
Location: Pacific County
Status: Offline
Points: 553
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Posted: 03 Jun 2012 at 21:02 |
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I send 40000, but only of one resource. To each their own, I guess.
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"Semantics are no protection from a 50 Megaton Thermonuclear Stormcrow."-Yggdrassil (June 21, 2011 6:48 PM) "SCROLL ya donut!" Urgorr The Old (September 1, 2011 4:08 PM)
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Subatoi
Forum Warrior
Joined: 01 Mar 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 380
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Posted: 03 Jun 2012 at 21:36 |
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Well this has been de-railed sufficiently
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Garth
Forum Warrior
Joined: 10 May 2012
Location: Somewhere, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 249
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Posted: 03 Jun 2012 at 22:03 |
Subatoi wrote:
Well this has been de-railed sufficiently | I suppose so; only after it had been resurrected, though :) If you had been wanting a current, non-corrupted recruitment thread, I assume you would've started a new one long before this recent group of posts that Myrin sparked.
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Subatoi
Forum Warrior
Joined: 01 Mar 2012
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Points: 380
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Posted: 03 Jun 2012 at 22:15 |
Well to be honest I was thinking about a new one after page two but decided to wait a little bit for more history to accumulate that way it could actually be updated..
Also Ryelle or Rill sparked it intially.
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Rill
Postmaster General
Player Council - Geographer
Joined: 17 Jun 2011
Location: California
Status: Offline
Points: 6903
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Posted: 03 Jun 2012 at 22:24 |
ok, let me just save everyone a bit of time ...
Rill: Did not! Ryelle: (does not have a forum account) EF: Did so! Rill: Did not! Ryelle (still no forum account)
and etc.
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Subatoi
Forum Warrior
Joined: 01 Mar 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 380
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Posted: 03 Jun 2012 at 22:27 |
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You are both the same person, if someone says Ryelle said this it's understood that the person operating the account ryelle (and rill) said that, or did that, etc.
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