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Originally posted by Dogstar Dogstar wrote:

must be referring to when SMA newb rung a non-military player after breaking our truce.


SMA made clear in the beginning that we would attack all enemy cities. After all you declared on us and started the aggression. There would have been multiple possibilities to solve the issue on your side:
  1. Not declare war when you have players that you could not protect
  2. Ask the player to leave the war alliance RE before you declared
  3. Ask the player to move to the Iron/RE cluster
Unfortunately you failed to do that.

In my opinion you shot first and then wondered, were surprised and complained that we were shooting back.
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Do you have anything worth fighting over anymore? We got what we wanted already, do you have more to offer us?
I am not amused.
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Originally posted by Thirion Thirion wrote:

Originally posted by Dogstar Dogstar wrote:

must be referring to when SMA newb rung a non-military player after breaking our truce.


SMA made clear in the beginning that we would attack all enemy cities. After all you declared on us and started the aggression. There would have been multiple possibilities to solve the issue on your side:
  1. Not declare war when you have players that you could not protect
  2. Ask the player to leave the war alliance RE before you declared
  3. Ask the player to move to the Iron/RE cluster
Unfortunately you failed to do that.

In my opinion you shot first and then wondered, were surprised and complained that we were shooting back.

SMA's possibilities included:

1. Not breaking the truce that your alliance entered within days of the war starting
2. Not Newb ringing a hunter/gatherer player
4. Not demanding payment of prestige to not newb ring that same player
3. Not using GDT to cheat during the war.

SMA lost any claim to "honor" after it choose to use GDT to hack the game during the war. Regardless of the outcome of the war, your alliance's reputation has been irrevocably damaged by your actions. In cheating, you have already lost.
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look we already know unequivically that sma cheated the result of which gave them a huge advantage troop wise...that being said its just a matter of time till they newbie ring Iron which seems to be their priority....one thing i learned is that those here who are friends truly arent...speaking specifically to snags/roland....all good...my real life with my wife dying of terminal cancer moderates my response somewhat that being what it is.....their are still some great players/friends in this game....this game being my distraction from my real stressful and depressing life ...so be it....if i were a new player reading this post I would definitely NOT join SMA....they have shown their true colors here...sadly....players willing to newbie ring an entire alliance to prove their supporitiory...all good as my alt Opinion was a throwaway account in the first place..a farm, harvesting account second.'
Unlike some SMA members I dont multi account nor have permasats with shared passwords...anyone joining them needs to be aware of their integrity which as far as I am concerned is zero.   I felt bad for Eagle and his RL situation if real...but then that is me....am real...speak honesty if proven wrong here will admit it in GC...so how does one share their disappointment in some players here...give em the benifit of the doubt or call them out for who and what they are.....all good though glad I am now in SkB with some real, honest, and decent players
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Originally posted by KarL Aegis KarL Aegis wrote:

Do you have anything worth fighting over anymore? We got what we wanted already, do you have more to offer us?


King Sigerius also wanted to make Aindara a hard landclaim (i.e. forcing other players out) with only Iron cities and cities supporting Iron there (i.e. either pay 100m gold per month and/or supply gear/advanced resources).

Doesn't look good there - seems to me like you are losing hard on that front.
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Originally posted by Dogstar Dogstar wrote:

SMA's possibilities included:

1. Not breaking the truce that your alliance entered within days of the war starting
2. Not Newb ringing a hunter/gatherer player
4. Not demanding payment of prestige to not newb ring that same player
3. Not using GDT to cheat during the war.


You started the aggression. You declared the war. And then complain (King Sigerius would say "cry") all day when it doesn't go like you wanted it to.

You expected us to back down and not fight. You expected us to be bad at war.

Unfortunately we did decided to fight and SMA is overall a lot better then Iron/RE. A lot more troops/production and better setup operations.

You took a huge gamble and to me it seems like you are losing. That is on you - not us.
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Nothing is as comical as gloating that you're so much better than your opponents but needing to resort to cheating to win. Nothing like using aim bot/wallhacks to demonstrate to your oppoents that you are better. You know Therion most people don't really care about who did what, what started, was it justified etc. But what we do care about is that your alliance cheated and the devs did nothing. In others games when you wallhack/aim bot the devs ban you, but in this one because its been endorsed for so long they don't ban you. This makes new players really want to play the game, NOT. SMA single handedly killing Illyriad. Clap
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An alliance that`s so much better and so confident they will win that they resort to cheating and constant forced exodus of their towns Wink yes they`re very confident .   When you`re a 20 million alliance pop and resort to cheating on someone  1/5th their size tells you all about them and how ``good `` they are LOL
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Originally posted by Roman Emperium Roman Emperium wrote:

An alliance that`s so much better and so confident they will win that they resort to cheating and constant forced exodus of their towns Wink yes they`re very confident .   When you`re a 20 million alliance pop and resort to cheating on someone  1/5th their size tells you all about them and how ``good `` they are LOL

We've even got some SMA towns to exo twice LOL. 
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