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Originally posted by Dogstar Dogstar wrote:

The amount of prestige you spent to try to keep Eagle's city alive was sickening.
I like to be efficient and i like to be prepared. My first 5 years of playing the game i was never running negative gold over the whole account (which is different now). I made a lot of gold (probably 100-200b) over the last years and invested that in advanced resources, gear and Prestige.

That is where the majority of the Prestige i used came from. That said, i also buy some Prestige because i want to support the game.

Originally posted by Dogstar Dogstar wrote:

But you think that you need to make sure no one ever declares war on SMA again? Good luck with that. Your behavior makes you a target.

Both Iron and RE wanted a hard landclaim (i.e. forcing players to move out). That had nothing to do with me and would have happened without me in the game.
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Everyone who has asked me personally to stay in Aindara has been able to stay in Aindara.

[Iron] did not begin any operations until after March 8 as stated previously in the forums.

My throbbing land claim is a direct result of Thirion's aggression against me, as stated on the [Iron] alliance profile.
I am not amused.
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Before 60 cities was even allowed , during the consone war a great exodus of players left the game once they were razed to the ground by the `` peaceful`` alliances.  Asking someone to rebuild is no simple task especially if they don`t use prestige so what they do to ? abandon especially since there`s lack of content and activities in this game .  Not everyone buys prestige in this game , just show`s how delusional you are, but than again I'm not shocked ``peaceful players`` love genocide the most.

The level of cruelty shown came back to bite them in the long run as it made  long standing enemies instead of friends, this is why I respected Stukahh, you fought your war and came to  light terms once the enemy was done and depleted,  we became close friends with him afterwards. 

I`m fairly confident you will fail regardless ,but i`m glad you said that as it show`s you and SMAS true colors when it concerns driving players from the game.  Just admit by the way you wanted the war , stop acting like the victim here. 


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Originally posted by KarL Aegis KarL Aegis wrote:

Everyone who has asked me personally to stay in Aindara has been able to stay in Aindara.
We asked for a "soft landclaim" (i.e. cities there are grandfathered in) and we would have been fine with that. King Sigerius said no. Why?

Originally posted by KarL Aegis KarL Aegis wrote:

My throbbing land claim is a direct result of Thirion's aggression against me, as stated on the [Iron] alliance profile.

Lets look at what happened:

  1. King Sigerius and me had a discussion about a different topic (alliance size limitations) in GC
  2. King Sigerius got angry and declared on Thirions alliance
  3. Irons ally TOR (former second alliance of RE) immediately declared and Orcupine (later Iron - now RE) sent a direct attack against me
  4. I sent a siege against a close city from King Sigerius - he exoed out
  5. ...
  6. I abandoned Thirion to de-escalate the situation
  7. He declared war on SMA/ITG/FDU-S shortly after
Summary: King Sigerius declared war and Iron/RE sent the first attack. I abandoned Thirion and still Iron/RE declared war.
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Originally posted by Roman Emperium Roman Emperium wrote:

Before 60 cities was even allowed , during the consone war a great exodus of players left the game once they were razed to the ground by the `` peaceful`` alliances.  Asking someone to rebuild is no simple task especially if they don`t use prestige so what they do to ? abandon especially since there`s lack of content and activities in this game .  Not everyone buys prestige in this game , just show`s how delusional you are, but than again I'm not shocked ``peaceful players`` love genocide the most.

1) So essentially you are saying you knew how we would react and you still decided to be aggressive against us? Isn't that on you then - as you knew the terms before?

Why attack us when you are not fine with the terms?

2) To quote dogstar: You will need to newb ring me if you want to "protect [yourself] from future aggression". 
To me that looks like like we have to newb-ring you to get what we want. How is that on us when essentially you are asking for it?

3) From the beginning we offered all Iron/RE players to drop the alliance and we would not consider them war runners. Iron/RE players had the chance to get out without anything negative happen to them multiple times.

That said, i have helped a lot of players build up in the game. I am going to help all SMA players with that after the war and i am also willing to help most Iron/RE players building up again.

Originally posted by Roman Emperium Roman Emperium wrote:

The level of cruelty shown came back to bite them in the long run as it made  long standing enemies instead of friends, this is why I respected Stukahh, you fought your war and came to  light terms once the enemy was done and depleted,  we became close friends with him afterwards. 

Why attack us then? Why not leave us alone and let us do what we want?
Why not attack another war alliance that wants to fight and have a fun war with them (benefitting both alliances)?

Originally posted by Roman Emperium Roman Emperium wrote:

I`m fairly confident you will fail regardless ,but i`m glad you said that as it show`s you and SMAS true colors when it concerns driving players from the game.  Just admit by the way you wanted the war , stop acting like the victim here. 

Multiple ITG/SMA/FDU-S players abandoned already because of your war declarations.

Iron declared war on 3 major Training Alliances (ITG, KELTS, ACHE)

Iron/RE started the aggression. We offered Iron/RE players an easy and free out multiple times.

Iron/RE are the aggressors and bullies. We are defending ourselves. In my opinion the true colors are shown quite well. 
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There is another important point i would like to make.

Originally posted by Roman Emperium Roman Emperium wrote:

The level of cruelty shown came back to bite them in the long run as it made  long standing enemies instead of friends, this is why I respected Stukahh, you fought your war and came to  light terms once the enemy was done and depleted,  we became close friends with him afterwards. 

I tried multiple times to get to a "fair" and "friendly" war. Unfortunately that was not what King Sigerius wanted.

1) In the negotiations King Sigerius offered me the following deal: Thirions new account joins Iron and Iron is not enforcing a hard landclaim for SMA in Aindara. I was fine with that. Then later he asked for an additional escrow. I was not fine with that.

2) I offered King Sigerius a "fair" war. Which for me meant players that want to fight on both sides with equal city sizes. With rules both sides agree on. King Sigerius said no.

I also offered multiple war alliances the following deal (and after the war that deal is open to any alliance that wants a war):

Contact me if you want a fair and fun war for both sides. I am going to make a new alliance of players that are willing to fight your alliance (including me). We also find rules for the war that both sides agree on (i.e. no noob-ringing ... or even no-razing if that is what you want). Lets go !!

My goal over the last years has always been the same: Protect peaceful players in SMA that want to be left alone. Help and teach players. Create fun content for everyone (including war players).
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It actually looks like the war is over. Mission accomplished. You should surrender.
I am not amused.
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that is cool and all, but,

<insert incendiary comment which forces thirion to spend an hour typing an essay>

hope you will consider this,

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Originally posted by KarL Aegis KarL Aegis wrote:

It actually looks like the war is over. Mission accomplished. You should surrender.


Unfortunately i have no idea why the war would be over. Our mission is far from accomplished. I am still moving cities and haven't fully started yet. Short distance is going to make the war a lot more fun - at least for us. Can't wait to get the production up to 100k Kobolds per day.

There has been quite a bit of talk about honor and "real warriors".

When the war started our players in Aindara/Westmarch were mostly out of troops because of the tournament. After all we won the Westmarch square in February. Iron/RE knew this. Still they declared war on us and attacked those players.

Around 5 accounts with no/little war experience and out of troops against 36 accounts with war experience and troops. That is neither a fair nor an honorable fight. That is in my opinion not something a good and skilled warrior would do. That is what a griefer would do.

They took around 20 cities (i think) from JimmyRTG - who did not defend against a single siege. Bullying and razing a player that is already down. There is no honor in that.

Our players in Aindara/Westmarch put up an amazing fight. They did not want the war. They had almost nothing. They still made it hard for Iron/RE. They managed to make it hard for Iron/RE and bought a lot of time. That is something to be proud of. 

They are in my opinion the unsung heroes of this war!

Why am i talking about this? In my opinion Iron/RE is going to be out of troops soon. As usual there is going to be a lot of complaining. Lets see how Iron/RE is going to handle that situation. They should remember that they didn't stop when they were the attacker.

Originally posted by bzn bzn wrote:

<insert incendiary comment which forces thirion to spend an hour typing an essay>

I like spending hours on typing an essay and also long walks on the beach. Is there something wrong with this? Wink
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There is no honor in that.

must be referring to when SMA newb rung a non-military player after breaking our truce. You are so full of BS, I need a N-95 mask just to respond to your posts.
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