The History of Illyriad (incomplete)

 

Anyway. I actually disagree with the statement that it is heavily biased. It may emphasise the actions of some over others, possibly wrongly, but I have never once in that complimented Lorre or Createure or anyone. Quite possibly, wrongly, but anyway. My largest objection to that piece is the shortness, as I feel that it was an important event and I don't think the  piece does it justice.

 

_duQ. Thanks for imforming me about the Anjire thing; my main source of information, unfortunately, is the forums and as you can probably imagine this is not a particularly trustworthy source. I should really be grateful that this is the first protest that I have received.

 

Your analysis about Illyriad is interesting, very much so. In a lot of your points I completely agree with you, and most certainly agree that the one server is the main cause of the atmosphere in the game- in a charitable mood, I'd call it peaceful; in an angry mood I'd call it dull. However, this is beside the point of the post. I never ONCE wanted to have this thread as a debate on the comparative merits/disadvantages to the game, and I think you based the majority of your post on an impression given to you by a sentence that was not intended to give that meaning. If it offended you, I apologise. If you would like me to change it, I will. I have never been one of the lynch mob. A quick forum search will reveal that my alliance was one of the few alliances that was involved in the S&B war, but not in the Valar war. Why? One was a fair cause. The other was cruel and in my opinion unnecessary.

 

Please, however, do submit the reasons for the berberos incident. As far as I'm aware, the only explanation ever given is that you wanted to secure your cities and you deemed berberos too close. If there is another side to the story, then I would appreciate it if you told me and I will adjust the account accordingly.

Actually, as an analysis it was pretty interesting. Your conclusions, I would argue with. The basic observations are pretty solid. But if you wanted a discussion about that, you should perhaps have posted elsewhere. Instead you decided to post in Noki's history thread.

History allows analysis.

My own experience is necessarily relevant to my analysis and part of the method I used to analyse.

But dully noted.

I will copy the relevant parts in a more relevant topic as soon as I have some time, perhaps tomorrow.

_duQ wrote: And Noki can't have full knowledge of events but you can.

I think I've always been clear that Illy is too complex for one person to understand, and that people should always be mindful of their ignorance (e.g.  http://wisdomofkurdruk.wordpress.com/2011/09/25/so-its-war/ , http://wisdomofkurdruk.wordpress.com/2011/06/13/the-danger-of-ignorance/ , and http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/seeing-the-good-and-the-bad-in-h_topic3901.html )

_duQ wrote: And you're not being defaming when you imply that I lie about Az.

At the time, Az assured me that he was trying to calm you down and avoid war. You posted here that you and Az were plotting war. Someone's not telling the truth. I have no way to know which of you it is.

I regard your past actions as a menace to the peace of Illyria (and I turned out to be right), and I'm still angry that Az ran away when the war started and left the rest of us to try to work out what on earth was going on - so I'm not a fan of either of you, but I'm in no position to tell which of you is/was being less than truthful.

Like I say, yours was an interesting assertion. I'm not in a position to say more than that. But it certainly was interesting.

_duQ wrote: And you're not biaised, because you've never been one of my detractors in the past.

I have always been quite clear on this. I regard peace in Illyriad as a good thing, and I have frequently held up both you and Lorre as prime examples of people who threatened that peace. So certainly, I am not a fan.

I also didn't enjoy being one of the people who had to sort out the "war". I didn't enjoy watching good players quit the game (remember DakotaStrider and KingAtreus?). I didn't enjoy having to explain to 80 mystified players that H? and the jackal-pack could destroy everything they'd worked to build if they felt like it and that neither I nor anyone else knew why it was happening. I didn't enjoy watching players I had previously respected turn into a misguided lynch mob. The "war" was the single most unpleasant experience I've had in Illyriad, and I nearly quit the game over it. And I hold you partially responsible for that. So absolutely, I'm not your fan.

_duQ wrote: And you're not illustrating what I said about right thinking people "knowing" the official holly truth.

Correct. I am quite clearly not illustrating that.

_duQ wrote: And my reply wasn't at all analysis and thoughts about Illyriad but was fully dedicated to a parochialism quarrel.

Sure! 

And Noki can't have full knowledge of events but you can.

And you're not being defaming when you imply that I lie about Az.

And you're not biaised, because you've never been one of my detractors in the past.

And you're not illustrating what I said about right thinking people "knowing" the official holly truth.

And my reply wasn't at all analysis and thoughts about Illyriad but was fully dedicated to a parochialism quarrel.

And remember what everyone knows: _duQ kills puppys each time he sneezes and he eats children for breakfast.