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Grom 
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 Posted: 09 Feb 2018 at 09:36 |
This has nothing to do with the fact that this alliance just happens to be tied to you personally? We don't exactly view Iron as friendly,given your other allies,so why would we not view this one with some vigilance? Edited by Grom - 09 Feb 2018 at 09:37 |
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Orcish Warlord
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Posted: 08 Feb 2018 at 17:43 |
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When you presume that Sabbathius was or is the leader of Golden Horde at any point, you are merely assuming something that is not correct. Being a founder does not mean one is the leader, and being the top ranked officer does not mean one is the leader either. Sabbathius was merely the figurehead of interested parties that have grown over time. I was his replacement. Did he ever at any point say he was the TOP and ONLY leader of Golden Horde? Also right now his account has not been granted any officer rank, so stop assuming things already. He does occupy a "veteran" rank, but a veteran is not an officer. So...
Sabbathius is merely being used as the scapegoat. The people of Taomist should start worrying indeed about a future landclaim in the area, but not one from Golden Horde. And not only the people of Taomist but of some surrounding regions, if the rumours are true. I was always against the move to Taomist and it turns out I was correct to want to avoid the region. It is a pity TCol decided to opt to kick us out, because we could have made some really lucrative bussiness together, but we will comply and move out.
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King Sigerius
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Posted: 08 Feb 2018 at 15:58 |
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Kicking a small peaceful alliance out of Taomist is a crappy move. And saying it's because of Sab when he is absent is even crappier. TCol has been playing Trump lately, I play illy to get away from things like that.
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eowan the short
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Posted: 08 Feb 2018 at 13:50 |
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Want to make a bet that my accounts will still be around at the end of the summer without being kicked from a single alliance? I'll put 50 mil on me not being kicked between now and September 1st from any alliance.
The reason why Sabb's actions were taken as representative of GH's is that he was your leader at the time. He is also still in GH- and in second command no less- which somewhat lessens the persuasiveness of your distancing from him.
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Orcish Warlord
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Posted: 08 Feb 2018 at 11:46 |
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Which I am fairly sure will occur faster than any land claim Golden Horde will make (faster than something that will never occur, in other words). Perhaps that - your departure from your current alliances - is what you are predicting that might happen in the summer, Eowan.
Edited by Orcish Warlord - 08 Feb 2018 at 11:50 |
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Orcish Warlord
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Posted: 08 Feb 2018 at 11:05 |
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Also I said that Eowan was a troll because instead of handling the issue privately with IGMs, he decides to make an entire drama in the public forums jeopardizing the welbeing of everyone in the GH. Statements like these are serious accusations, and while Sabbathius did indeed do what you say, he is not Golden Horde and all it's members. So to protect a newbie that barely plays the game, you decide to kill the game for almost everyone in GH, instead of handling the issue via IGMs. I would have told Sabbathius to get off KliPsta (the newbie) and provided compensation like I did if damage had already been done. But no. You decide to make an entire issue on the public forums.
But given your past history, I am not really surprised. You almost dragged other alliances into open war due to your problems with SS for instance (alliances with a lot of people that didn't give a damn about SS). No wonder you had to abandon your accounts. I am waiting and eager to see your new alliances kicking you off due to the problems you might put them into the future, similarly to what hapened in the past.
Edited by Orcish Warlord - 08 Feb 2018 at 11:06 |
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Orcish Warlord
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Posted: 08 Feb 2018 at 10:25 |
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I don't know why you keep calling Sabbathius and what he did or what he did not do into the matter.
I am not Sabbathius - Period. Deal with your issues with him over steam if you really want. Sabbathius DOES NOT SPEAK FOR ME or the Golden Horde. For the last time. You are using Sabbathius as an excuse to dislodge us from our current position. A player with 5 towns and with my great wealth can't really say no when a big alliance comes knocking on the doorstep and asking you to go "elsewhere" - you are not being much better than Sabbathius himself in my eyes (I am as big as the newbie he attacked in population terms but Sabbathius was Sabbathius apparently). So the Golden Horde will be once more on the move... somewhere else. I believe I will disband the entire alliance at some point. Remains to be seen. If you are predicting a land claim in Summer it isn't from me, dear Eowan. I said in my first post that the "golden horde would be slowly moving out of the taomist, at least, that was the current plan". If you read it correctly, I was unsure. Given some circumstances diplomatically plus the amount of money I have poured into terraforms and Sabbathius into his own account, I decided to stay. It is really easy to understand. I am still perplexed why I refused KOA's invitation to his new alliance and accepted the one Sabbathius presented me with. Dear lord. So in a short resume: Golden Horde will be moving out of Taomist due to TCol's very nice request. I am still very annoyed with the fact of how the entire issue is being handled (because of Sabbathius ONLY - as if he was the ENTIRE alliance) and because how many hundred millions I poured into terraforms and prestige, lost forever.
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eowan the short
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Posted: 07 Feb 2018 at 14:02 |
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Fake news! I am a troll! My opponent is a liar and cannot be trusted! :P
I predict a landclaim by the summer... though according to iron, now is summer so that landclaim could be any day now....
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Zenorra
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Posted: 07 Feb 2018 at 13:02 |
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I can confirm that it was Sabb's intention to LC Taomist all along and I believe the GH alliance still has this as a goal. Sabb told me in a private chat that I did not save.
Why is Eeowan called a troll when he reports the truth? Sheesh. Talk about killing the messenger!
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Orcish Warlord
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Posted: 07 Feb 2018 at 01:26 |
Given some circumstances, the plan has changed and we decided to stay in the Taomist. There is no landclaim and I would like to make that clear.
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