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Too many lettaz, can anyone print the brief verison in like 10 words plz?
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I do hope that you guys realize that the last time you did this you went up against a tiny alliance NC and a basically inactive alliance called H? and patted yourselves on the back for destroying them and changing the nature of the game forever. Now you are trying the same thing and bleating the same message trying to justify your actions. The only difference this time is the SINdicate is not tiny, nor inactive, and will probably not fold as you wish. Your actions in the past are the reason your alliances are basically shells of sat accounts and semi active players while the SINdicate has grown to appeal to the more active, social, free spirited players you now face. Good luck with your efforts and lets hope you actually get something together so that we can remain active and engaged. If not you might actually just win by us rage abandoning due to your inability to keep us occupied with what we enjoy.

If you fail to follow through with this veiled attempt to engage the server in a massive war, we might actually be obliged to swarm into Elgea and totally destroy all your accounts.

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Well, as we British imperialists like to say, "I'm chuffed as nuts!".
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I thought NAPs were for minimizing the unintended bumping/killing of others?  Seems like there should be another level of diplomacy in there somewhere?

HATH's idea was bound to occur.  Was it introduced in the best possibly way?  Well... clearly there are critics. 

Let the story lines develop and the winners get to write the final narrative!
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Originally posted by white willow white willow wrote:

Do not count on anyone but those within your own alliance. Certainly not any conglomeration of confeds.

Then you need better confeds. Ours are trustworthy in battle. Most alliances use NAP and Confed as a Facebook follow status, which is not really effective for actual gameplay.
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http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/

10/10 Speech Hath.. Such effort Much wow 



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I try to stay neutral in all of this other than observe what is happening. Illy with an edge is a much better game. Our young alliance has trained from its start to defend itself and its independence from anyone.

Haths long winded speech only confirms my beliefs. Do not count on anyone but those within your own alliance. Certainly not any conglomeration of confeds.
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How quaint and curious war is! That an alliance already at war with an alliance from a certain confederation should unite with other alliances at war with members of that confederation seems reasonable enough. But why the need for some broader declaration?  Do you really need to set out in such plagiarized detail your ideas for the future of Illyriad? Do you truly expect additional allies to sign up?

Oh well, talk as much as you deem necessary; so long as you stay out of MM. 
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Taking off my SIN mask for a moment. From a purely gaming perspective, I want to give credit to HATHALDIR for stepping up and making good on helping to deliver "Grand Strategy" to the server once again.

I've been talking a bit about this in GC -- that the game developers bill this game as a "Grand Strategy MMO." Even though Wikipedia isn't a gold standard source, their page on Grand Strategy is worth checking out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_strategy

It's not up to the game developers to deliver on the "Grand Strategy" aspect of Illyriad -- it's up to us, the player base. The first four years of Illyriad were highly engaged in this level of play, and because of it, the game thrived. As Grand Strategy has receded from the gaming culture here, engagement has waned. All you need to do is read some of the negative reviews on Steam to find proof in this.

Most players come here looking to gain entry to and play within in an overarching geopolitical milieu that has not been present in the game for 3+ years. Even if only playing a niche role, players generally want to experience some measure of the metagame. I am hopeful that we are beginning to see "sides" form again. Factions. Good for you that you're ready to play this way again. For my part, you can count on me to play against you all to my utmost.

Putting my SIN mask back on . . . 

For those who align with us, we welcome you as friends and allies. For those who oppose us: WE ARE GOING TO RAVAGE YOU ALL.

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Originally posted by OssianII OssianII wrote:

As everyone knows "absolute power can corrupt absolutely"




Edited by Ten Kulch - 12 Oct 2017 at 13:44
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