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Subatoi 
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 Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 21:09 |
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Factions are AI's soon to go live that can fight with players and with players, factions usually hate another faction so its a good assumption that somehow you'll end up fighting another player when they go live.
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Jarko
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Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 21:06 |
 Avion wrote:
I'm assuming you would also want free-for-alls, with warring alliances/players attacking peaceful ones to subjugate or eradicate them, like many MMOs. This site feels more like RL - you attack Kuwait, for example, and you get an alliance of nations jumping down your throat. 
The one thing I really dislike about other MMOs is how quickly newbies are destroyed by the bigger players. I was playing one where I had carefully built up my castle wall to lvl 20 (the max) and building up an army to defend my settlement and then one morning I logged in to find I had been conquered and would I like to start over again!  Um, no thanks.
I can see why you wouldn't find Illyriad "exciting" enough if you like these other MMOs but if you were to wait until Factions goes live (soon???) you might find the game more challenging (if the AI is good), but I would recommend "bulking up" a bit more. Join an alliance, let them help you grow, and then kick Faction butt. |
Ok you understood exactly what I meant :) Yeah, I got that on Illy it works like on RL. It's cool, it's unique. I'd just like to try a server with a different scenario :)
About your story... Strongly PvP-based browser game where servers are not restarted every X months are garbage. If you join a server populated by 2,3 years old accounts, you are going to be pillaged and conquered with ease, as it happened to you. On Travian, for example, there are several servers running at any time in each country. A new server is launched almost every month (at least in Italy), and each server lasts for about 1 year, then it's over the way I explained in the OP. Oh, and you can't register to a server that it's more than like 6 months old. So it ends up that servers start with like 15000 players and end with like 1500 active players - like a big Risk match, you know? Thousands get conquered / totally destroyed :)
Why do you guys keep mentioning this faction thing anyway? And what does it have to do with Artificial Intelligence?
PS: "I had carefully built up my castle wall to lvl 20 (the max) and building up an army to defend my settlement" <- doing things this way works only on Illy, I guess :D Gotta train armies from day 1, sir!
Edited by Jarko - 08 Jun 2012 at 21:11
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Avion
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Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 20:21 |
I would agree that if two alliances wished to war against each other (both consenting) then they should be allowed to without any interference. But I suspect this isn't what you have in mind - I'm assuming you would also want free-for-alls, with warring alliances/players attacking peaceful ones to subjugate or eradicate them, like many MMOs. This site feels more like RL - you attack Kuwait, for example, and you get an alliance of nations jumping down your throat. The one thing I really dislike about other MMOs is how quickly newbies are destroyed by the bigger players. I was playing one where I had carefully built up my castle wall to lvl 20 (the max) and building up an army to defend my settlement and then one morning I logged in to find I had been conquered and would I like to start over again! Um, no thanks. I can see why you wouldn't find Illyriad "exciting" enough if you like these other MMOs but if you were to wait until Factions goes live (soon???) you might find the game more challenging (if the AI is good), but I would recommend "bulking up" a bit more. Join an alliance, let them help you grow, and then kick Faction butt.
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Subatoi
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Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 19:36 |
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There have been wars, i'd suspect we see more but we have quite a lot of Justice Mode players who feel it is their responsibility to babysit everyone. Tmm war, White/H? war, H?/Valar TLR/HEAT and others, those off the top of my head that did occur.
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geofrey
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Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 19:20 |
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Your negative comments about this game have outraged my men beyond control. A commander has taken some men and is on the way to your town.
Fear cuts deeper than swords.
Edited by geofrey - 08 Jun 2012 at 19:23
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Jarko
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Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 18:28 |
Subatoi wrote:
last I checked CHOSEN was interested in pvp and so you may find a few people in there that would be interested in fighting you.
I could see about one of my newbs fighting you as well. |
That's some sort of cheap consensual PvP. The equivalent of a tournament, just player-run. Thanks for the tip but it's not really what I'm looking for.
Subatoi wrote:
Theres a slight max on cities, so new players today can catch up to old players of yesterday. |
How long does it take? Weeks? Months? Years? To what extent does Prestige speed up the process?
Drejan wrote:
No this game is not about personal strength but about alliances. Coordination of many players is the key.I agree that some more interation is required but this is not a game for you if you are just looking for pvp without any consequences. |
Every browser game is about alliances. I don't think I ever found one who wasn't :)
However, is it true that no alliance engaged in war with another alliance exists on Illy? With "engaged in a war" I don't mean fighting a silly tournament, I mean two alliances attacking each other, raiding each other, casting spells against each other, sieging each other with the aim to wipe each other out of the game. I mean, a WAR, as I find every day in the browser games I like.*
And again, is it true that if an alliance tried to attack another alliance, the whole server would coalize against the offending alliance to wipe them out?
If the answer is yes, then this is a dead game when it comes to warfare and related politics.
*If it exists just PM me, I'm ready to join the fray, better if on the side that is losing.
Edited by Jarko - 08 Jun 2012 at 18:31
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Subatoi
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Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 17:07 |
Of course if your entering an alliance to pvp against, it may be look on as unfair to another party.. and then another party..
Warfare is hard here because of the many interpretations of bullies
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Drejan
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Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 17:05 |
Population is basically capped, so you will catch in the end. No this game is not about personal strength but about alliances. Coordination of many players is the key.
I agree that some more interation is required but this is not a game for you if you are just looking for pvp without any consequences.
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Subatoi
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Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 17:02 |
Theres a slight max on cities, so new players today can catch up to old players of yesterday. Be sure to place yourself in an alliance to where you could catch up to the old players/ alliances, or team up with the older alliances, whatever.
Edited by Subatoi - 08 Jun 2012 at 17:03
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Jarko
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Posted: 08 Jun 2012 at 16:27 |
SunStorm wrote:
Jarko,
It is too bad that the current game set-up is not meeting your play-style. I do believe the Dev's are working on future modifications and improvements to help in this area. Faction AI should prove useful in this area as well. Until then, we will just have to wait patiently. I wish you all the best. |
Thanks for your kind reply. I'm happy to hear that. However... Even if they introduce some cool news to stimulate conflict in this server, how much time would it take for a newbie to become competitive and really be part of it? One year? Or probably never, since as you progress, the players which had been playing for 2 years to as well.
Sadly I think that without a new server, it's a no go for any new player.
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