Terrain testing results

hehe ok so that's a piece of evidence 


to know if there is a difference between atk and def bonus for an unit, u just need to do a battle on a square with the same power for attackers and defenders of a same type.
then this is a so close battle: no modifier difference. if not u can just say if this unit have more def or more atk on this square.

if i had a question to ask to a GM that would be this one for exemple:

what is the defense modifer of archers on the "lesser" and the "greater" version of each type of square?

if only we had those 8 numbers, we could find the modifier on atk and def for each unit on each square.

But that may be a too big ask

Mandarins31 wrote: There are only 4 terrain type. Mountains, Hills, Forests and Plains. I don(t think that Lonely peaks, for exemple, gives more Def bonus to Archers than Treacherous Mountains. But yes finally we dont know, and we may be careful of that.

GM Stormcrow wrote: ... ...all squares in Illyriad pretty much fall into one of 4 categories: Plains Mountains Hills Forests Within those 4 types, there are subcategories (Light Forest and Dense Forest, Small Hills and Large Hills etc).  Whatever the "general" bonus or penalty to combat for each terrain type is generally smaller on the 'lesser' version of the square, and larger on the 'greater' version of the square. ...

If only we could get a GM to tell us whether or not the modifier is the same in att and def, and if a troop isn't mentioned in the description then do they have a modifier or not.

I think I heard Stormcrow say that there is difference between hills, small hills and so on also with forest and mountains you can read from descriptions that there is already differences. And don't forget city squares under ruined towers ;) 

As others have stated, I don't think its wise to rule out the attack vs same unit type, but in the same manner as above, calculating att and def values for an even battle. It may very well be the case that troops have the same bonus/penalty in both attack and defence roles, but it's best to rule out all assumptions, especially if you're testing a system that doesn't create that definition.

Assuming different att and def bonuses for same troop type, there are 8 variables per tile type, giving 16 ratios that are the only thing calculable from this research. Would still give you the end result, what's better where. How would you narrow down the actual figure though?

16 ratios, 3 battles per ratio per tile for a good test, *currently* 35 different terrain types = 1680 test battles. Good luck :P

Zangi and I repeated the same experiment to see if there was a random element.  We did it exactly the same way and got exactly the same results.  This leads me to believe the spearmen did get a minor penalty and that the results are not random.

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Subject:	Failed defense by Grog's forces at Square -41|-199 under attack by Zangi's forces from New Nydus
Two opposing forces clash against each other. Cavalry comes into its own when able to strike hostile forces at will, and from unexpected directions - and nowhere is this more feasible than on open plains. Lightly armoured spear units, however, prefer terrain where there's some cover available. Fighting defensively on open plains, cavalry draws strength from the ability to form and reform their lines of engagement depending on the direction of battle, and it is here where cavalry excels. Attackers: Unit: Quantity: Casualties: Survivors: Commander: Axing Axman 1 Damaged for 84, 16 health remains. Troops: Axmen 39 32 7 Defenders: Unit: Quantity: Casualties: Survivors: Commander: Lamb2 Kobold Cohort 1 Damaged for 100, 0 health remains. Troops: Kobold Cohorts 89 89 0