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Aurordan 
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 Posted: 19 Feb 2014 at 19:54 |
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That second paragraph was a response to statements by your Director in this very thread. Not everything is about you.
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Deranzin
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Posted: 19 Feb 2014 at 19:14 |
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As in GC, it would appear that here as well where the speed of the dialogue is slower you fail to understand texts ... can you point WHERE I SAID THAT .?. And as in GC you cannot, because I did not say such a thing ...  All I did is point out that KillerPuddle's estimation of setting an alliance for a couple of months back was accurate, else the new war would not have started so fast/soon (6 months) right after the previous one and the intervening tournament. Had the war stopped and no terms where given, you would have needed 3-4 months to get to full battle readiness anyway due to the time troops take to be built. As it is with the terms of the war it took you 3-4 months PLUS a couple of months. These are the facts and the topics I quoted prove it to be so ... Apart from that, I am not privy to the terms given to EE, so I couldn't have claimed what you accuse me of doing anyway ...  Better luck next time with the mud-flinging  EDIT: That is all from me ... btw do finally stop that horrible practice of branding and judging whole alliances from individual members' opinions ... if you wanna be over-reacting to everything people say fine by me, but you have to understand that it is getting a bit ridiculous ... Edited by Deranzin - 19 Feb 2014 at 19:19 |
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Aurordan
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Posted: 19 Feb 2014 at 18:53 |
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Not only is the actual estimate, seven months, right there in the very section you quoted, It was also previously state that this was without heavy prestige use or stored basics, which Elmindra may well have had. Anecdotal evidence of one players recovery is cannot be generalized. The terms levied against EE where by any measure among the most brutal in the game's history. That you think making them harsher would have helped you now is a testament to Harmless? hubris and arrogance. |
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Sir A
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Posted: 19 Feb 2014 at 18:14 |
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Thats actually a really good idea Angrim, so create a peace treaty per say right? The only problems I can see with that is that: 1. The winning side right now has no interest in doing that unless they were running out of gold/troops which is not really the case in this war. 2. How long would a peace treaty last and even if both sides agreed to it would they honor it? But other than that I think that is a great solution to ending the current war (at least for now). It definitely is more logical than the winners giving the losers reparations :P.
KP you really are the spinmaster, would you accept a medal titled "Spinmaster" if I made one for you? I would be honored. Anyway the way I see it in war the objective is to destroy your enemy until they lose the will or ability to fight. So far your allies have taken the majority of losses in this war since they were the main focus. It does make of sad that TCol had to take so much damage since they were the main focus and one of the biggest military powerhouse alliances in the game. They were pretty much the main reason NC has hardly lost any cities. And instead of helping them they selfishly used them to buy themselves time. And then after TCol finally surrendered after putting up an amazing fight Rorgash from NC thanked them by sending multiple sieges against them within hours after they surrendered. So don't talk to me about honor pls. As far as blaming players that are being targeted; if you offer terms to an enemy and they reject those terms would you stop attacking them? That would defy all logic and be really counterproductive. So yes I blame the ones that are being targeted because they know the risks of being in a war when they entered the war. And they also know that they can get out of the war at any time they choose and many individual players and 3 alliances have already done that. But anyone that chooses to stay in the war are targets and should not expect their enemies to stop attacking them. That is how war works and for me it really is as simple as that.
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scaramouche
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Posted: 19 Feb 2014 at 16:54 |
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So..knowing this now.. and if you could turn time back, would your terms have been much harsher? Surely you should have known that the consone war would create bitter people with a grudge? I have no doubt that this war will have created very much the same people that will one day in the future look for the same retribution. |
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Deranzin
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Posted: 19 Feb 2014 at 12:32 |
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Indeed math seems hard ... let us check the facts then Topic by Hathaldir: Eagles Eyrie surrenders to Harmless? Posted: 03 Apr 2013 at 12:25 Link : http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/eagles-eyrie-surrenders-to-harmless_topic4935.html Next topic by Aral :Topic: Discussing the Current War Posted: 27 Oct 2013 at 02:24 Link : http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/discussing-the-current-war_topic5289.html So this means that April - May- June you were back on your feet, so the timeline/prediction of setting "alliances back by a month or two at most" is accurate. July - August - September you had returned to full battle readiness (troops do take time to build in this game) and were confident to wage war again. Am I counting something wrong .?. And since when 6 months is a year .?.  |
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Elmindra
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Posted: 19 Feb 2014 at 11:54 |
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I know basic math is hard, but that war concluded almost a full year ago. Last I saw, a year had 12 months instead of 1 or 2. I personally did not lose as much as many of my alliance mates, but it was 6 months after the war before I was back up to near full strength. Timeline of the two wars my left foot, if the above happened we would have been back at war in a month or two as Kp stated, not over 7 months later.
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Nokigon
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Posted: 19 Feb 2014 at 10:14 |
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I don't really see why everyone is wailing about how the current environment is leading to the ruin of all of Illy. Joining in a war is not, by any means, a necessity. Epidemic himself is proof that you don't have to fight in a war if you don't want to.
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Epidemic
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Posted: 19 Feb 2014 at 09:13 |
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This is the farmville of wargames, no wonder you only lasted 7 days on Tribal Wars. You 'warmongers' don't understand just how good you have it here. This is a joke. Go find a real wargame and see how far you get tough guy... |
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Deranzin
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Posted: 19 Feb 2014 at 07:25 |
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Weeeelll ... if you see the timeline of the two wars it is apparent that this is exactly what happened ... besides aren't you the one who has been bragging for a couple of months now of how battleworthy your account is, about at least 300% troop sov and how you are "stronger than ever" and in such a short time .?. Sometimes bragging can seriously cripple your future arguments. Keep that in mind next time |
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Aurordan wrote: