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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rancor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 2014 at 06:44
Lets be realistic about this for a moment.

Right now I can log into my steam account and pull down free to play games and have over 100 titles to pick from.
Then there are kabam and big fish with hundreds if not thousands of games for younger players that are free to play.
Syfy games has free to play games.
Kongergate has free to play games.
I lost track of all the German browser sites that have free to play games.

I understand that the developers made this game and they need to pay for the servers and staff. Nothing is free in life.

I also understand that once you add a subscription charge no matter how big or small you will lose a huge chunk of players simply because there is so much out there that is free to play. Also there are many who can not do it IE children and students and people without credit cards.

I used up all of my prestige already the first few hours of playing because all the kind players sent me stuff and told me to keep upgrading my storehouse to hold it all and use prestige.
Almost all of them told me that there was not much else to use prestige on. So the one extra prestige a day does not influence me either way at this time.

When I played Lords of Ultima for 7 years I bought all 4 of the ministers for about $20 a month so that I could automate my 100 city empire. There was real value to me and anyone who was serious and had more then 4 cities bought them.

I don't know enough about the game yet for me to decide what I need to buy with prestige yet. When I do I will buy what I can afford.

As soon as you add a cash shop where you can buy something that a free to play player can not get then it becomes pay to win and players will leave as well.

I do know that a monthly subscription is not the way to go and not a good idea.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DaniSuper Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2014 at 03:12
Well it will totally and fully change the *Free to Play* value of game, there are many who might not be able to pay the subscription fees, not everyone has means :) 

Personally I cannot do Pay To play, plus the mere tag, might cause many people to stay away at a safe distance from game :)

So yep in disagreement here !
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote abstractdream Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2014 at 02:24
I don't think this will fly. Not with the players nor with the Devs. However, I want to add that I would be willing to pay such a nominal fee.

On the other hand, if it had been so from the beginning, I would probably had tried Illyriad and maybe even started paying when the fee kicked in (after a few months, as Rill suggested) but I doubt I would still be here with my current accounts. I probably would have abandoned sometime in the middle of 2012 due to the boredom which set in back then and started over a little while later because I missed my friends.

Anyway, it's an interesting thought but I think Prestige is the best way to fund Illyriad.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ancient Nightowl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2014 at 01:30
Prestige is a fee I willingly pay if I want to boost my development rate.
The current model will work just fine as long as there is something that needs a boost - BL in its original format being a case in point - a perceived need for rapid development to gain a foothold in a new land with many new gaming challenges. 
That original BL idea has been flagged so we are back to the same old routine and rapidly decreasing need to spend prestige as the accounts mature.
Stagnation and a subscription will kill it off even faster.
My vote is AGAINST too.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sheza Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2014 at 01:12
Some  Cant do that .   My friend from another  country  cant  do even that . Not every one lives in USA . Kids playing cant .  Parents  wont.   Not a good Idea 
want to raise money .  get a shop with boosts we can buy .   I dont know what kind for Illy  speed ups for research maybe .   
some thing to make walls  stronger  against attack .   truces  so you cant be his. IDK that  
pay to play No way . 
If Horses don't go to Heaven when they die. then I want to go where they go.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hiei Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2014 at 01:05
Disagree with this, regardless of any reasons.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Detritus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2014 at 01:02
...hm, I don't even have a credit card, so that might be a problem... never needed one so far... Wink

And I really can't see how that would help against permasats better than a "only sit 90 days and then Finito!" rule? Can't see any problems with that one suggested by SC....

I might buy some few prestige as soon as I get a regular income... but being forced to pay a regular fee out of principle would drive me out of the game. The optionality of prestige is the big point Illy has, and it would be dumb to loose that.

Oh, and Rill, no vilification from me at all, notice Tongue . It's an important point to discuss, even if only to clarify the stance of the community... mines AGAINST.
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NEVER..NEVER...NEVER

AND RILL, CONSIDER YOURSELF VILIFIED....
Now ask me how I really feel....lol Smile Dragonwort
Just another wrench in the works..
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Arctic55 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2014 at 23:40
I would personally have to leave illyriad if this gets implemented. My family has a strict "No paying to play games" rule out of money tightness. That's why I pay people in-game to buy prestige for me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Artefore Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2014 at 22:44
How about have the cost of playing optionally be prestige?  Have the daily bonus for prestige upgraded to 2 prestige and then charge say 20 prestige per month to play?  That way it would still be free and also put a strain on permasitting, as the daily bonus can't be claimed by a sitter.  Also, people could simply pay a subscription fee instead of using prestige, if they wanted the extra daily bonus.  

I really don't think any amount of money over £.50 is a reasonable amount to charge based on Illy's current business model.  
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