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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 02:12
Originally posted by Duuvian Duuvian wrote:

By giving them enough gold that 1.5k adv elven scouts can't scout their cities due to scout defense while still having a very large army. By sheltering them while they build enormous armies, and supplying the resources and gold.  All of these have been proven.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 02:26
I posted a FW from Stormlord where he took 75k adv resources from the CURSE player that didn't leave CURSE to join S&B yet was still sending armies at StA (while they were still in CURSE, it was Roller)

As far as sheltering while they built large armies, they only left CURSE about two weeks ago as Iduna said. They can't have built the armies sent in two weeks. There were over 35 siege engines going on Akura's cities, stacked with many thousand cavalry. Stormlord had a similar force sent to him but luckily it arrived piecemeal and was picked apart.

As for supplying the gold, how else could they possibly be paying for that many troops and diplos? Stormlord is our richest player and most active merchant, was constantly involved with the market since the first day, and told us he only has about 20 million.

Now, I was in the first tournament and burned through a lot of gold with a moderate sized army. I suppose they do have larger cities than I do, but I don't get where it hurts CURSE to have sent S&B gold as they were already in their alliance.

I don't see anything wrong with it, as I always supply my new alliance members; except S&B is using it to attack StA, which is smaller than both CURSE (by far) and S&B as far as active players large enough to be able to produce enough numbers of troops.

EDIT: I should say 35 on both of Akura's cities (for a total of 70), as well as another bunch of siege on Stormlord, I think 35 there as well though it may have been 45.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 03:14
duuvian - because you dont understand how we are better traders than you are isnt our fault. maybe this wasnt a spur of the moment idea. maybe we have fought in many wars with our previous alliances, or still maybe we only had to make the siege weapons before we attacked.  we are all previous Skull and Bones, we talk from time to time.
as you can see it still took some time to get it together again. stormlord didnt go as well as planned, akura went better, 1 win , 1loss and 1 yet to be determined
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 04:47
Originally posted by Duuvian Duuvian wrote:

In addition, use common sense. While it's easy to claim to want a fair fight on a forums to look better to the public, would you really want the people who were in your alliance for the past six months to risk losing to a smaller alliance? Imagine how that would make you look.


Common sense isn't common. Anyway, I really couldn't care less how I look in this game, so maybe this is why I fail to see why it would matter.

Originally posted by Duuvian Duuvian wrote:

They can't have built the armies sent in two weeks.


How is that relevant? Are the armies you built only two weeks old? Did you guys only start building troops when you got into the war? Everyone should have had their troops maxed out before the war, or at least close to it.

Originally posted by Duuvian Duuvian wrote:

There were over 35 siege engines going on Akura's cities, stacked with many thousand cavalry.


Who sends cavs to defend? They're practically asking to be wiped out...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 08:50
No doubt S&B have planned their assault, so whether Curse aided them in the lead up or not is irrelevant. S&B are fighting on their terms as planned, it's now probably at a point for STA to make a strategic decision or 2 before things become untennable.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 03:52
Originally posted by G0DsDestroyer G0DsDestroyer wrote:

Well I never attacked roller, all I've done is break sieges(only 3 of them, at this point),  and in the siege armies I've destroyed, there haven't been any of roller's troops, to my knowledge. S&B would be better off just attacking, then i wouldn't have gotten involved.


Originally posted by Duuvian Duuvian wrote:

GD was a paid mercenary by StA, if he'd like to fight Roller that's fine with me, but if the fight is solely instigated by Roller I at least will have to support GD as he was simply a mercenary recruited from Global chat and I can't let an honest mercenary be attacked for being an honest mercenary.

EDIT: By that I mean if GD wants a 1-1, by all means, but if he doesn't then I'll help him

Also, good to see you back Iduna


So basically Duuvian, you feel that the only way you wouldn't get involved is if GD was the aggressor? What if someone decides that they'll support Roller if GD crushes even one unit of his? Where would you stand then? Would you still come running to GD's support if Roller received backup? Would you start involving other alliances in this conflict?

As GD said, there were no troops belonging to Roller in the armies he destroyed. Could you provide definitive proof of Roller's involvement in the sieges, or was Stormlord simply seeking to find an excuse to rob a CURSE player?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 03:58
Who's winning?  I can't tell because of all the arguing....
"Semantics are no protection from a 50 Megaton Thermonuclear Stormcrow."-Yggdrassil (June 21, 2011 6:48 PM)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 07:57
I'll post a report in a moment, I'm afraid I have some very sad news and I'm very unhappy right now.
This is a quote from Akura from the B12 forums. He quoted an earlier message of mine:

Also, Akura, if you read this, got some news for you that you'll want to read in your message box. Very important.
To be honest, I don't really care anymore. With my capital taken, another city razed completely, and a third close to suffering either fate, over a year's worth time investment in this game is lost. You can do whatever you want.





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 08:40
for the forums
Sent By:    Stormlord [StA]
Received By:    You
Date:    6/21/2011 8:38:40 AM

here duuvian show them this    

System    Reinforcements from naivuud have arrived at Stormwald     21 Jun 2011 00:59
        System    Reinforcements from Noryasha Grunk have arrived at Stormwald     20 Jun 2011 23:11
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     20 Jun 2011 10:18
        System    Reinforcements from Alexwazer have arrived at Stormwald     20 Jun 2011 01:01
        System    Reinforcements from duuvian have arrived at Stormwald     19 Jun 2011 21:05
        System    Failed Sally at Square -27|-313 by Akura's forces from Ragmurder     19 Jun 2011 02:43
        System    Reinforcements from Akhier have arrived at Stormwald     19 Jun 2011 00:51
        System    Your reinforcements for Ragmurder (Akura) have arrived     18 Jun 2011 22:23
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     18 Jun 2011 09:51
        System    Reinforcements from Alexwazer have arrived at Stormwald     18 Jun 2011 09:09
        System    Your reinforcements for Stormwald (Stormlord) have arrived     17 Jun 2011 17:40
        System    Reinforcements from Stormlord have arrived at Stormwald     17 Jun 2011 17:40
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     17 Jun 2011 10:15
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     17 Jun 2011 07:00
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     17 Jun 2011 02:20
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     17 Jun 2011 00:24
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 23:53
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 23:43
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 23:24
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 23:21
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        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 23:06
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 22:24
        System    Army Defenders destroyed     16 Jun 2011 21:57
        System    Failed defense by Stormlord's forces at Stormwald under attack by Ifestion's forces from Alexandria     16 Jun 2011 21:57
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 21:24
        System    Reinforcements from Stormlord have arrived at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 21:19
        System    Your reinforcements for Stormwald (Stormlord) have arrived     16 Jun 2011 21:19
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 20:24
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 19:24
        System    Army Raiders destroyed     16 Jun 2011 18:40
        System    Failed attack against G0DsDestroyer's forces at Square -334|-67 by Stormlord's forces from Pope Threetoe's Basilica     16 Jun 2011 18:40
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 18:28
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 18:24
        System    Bombardment of Stormwald belonging to Stormlord begins!     16 Jun 2011 18:24
        System    Failed defense by Stormlord's forces at Stormwald under attack by Spirit's forces from WOLF PACK 1     16 Jun 2011 18:02
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 17:09
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 17:07
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 17:02
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 16:09
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 16:07
    
   
        System    Failed defense by Stormlord's forces at Stormwald under attack by Ifestion's forces from Nemesis Siege Encampment     16 Jun 2011 15:38
        System    Failed defense by Stormlord's forces at Stormwald under attack by Ifestion's forces from Neapolis     16 Jun 2011 15:18
        System    Failed defense by Stormlord's forces at Stormwald under attack by Ifestion's forces from Tripolis     16 Jun 2011 15:16
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 15:09
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 15:07
        System    Failed defense by Stormlord's forces at Stormwald under attack by Spirit's forces from Hardlanding     16 Jun 2011 14:40
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 14:18
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 14:18
        System    Failed defense by Stormlord's forces at Stormwald under attack by Spirit's forces from HARD ROCK     16 Jun 2011 14:16
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 14:09
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 14:07
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 13:57
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 13:46
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 13:09
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 13:07
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 12:58
        System    Army Wall Destroyer destroyed     16 Jun 2011 12:16
        System    Failed defense by Stormlord's forces at Stormwald under attack by Spirit's forces from AGAPE     16 Jun 2011 12:16
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 12:09
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 12:07
        System    Failed defense by Stormlord's forces at Dwarf Forest under attack by Borg's forces from Assimilation Center     16 Jun 2011 11:10
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 11:09
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 11:07
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 10:09
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 10:07
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 09:09
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 09:07
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 08:09
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 08:07
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 07:09
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 07:07
        System    An attacking army has begun a siege at Square -334|-65 (Stormwald)     16 Jun 2011 06:24
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 06:09
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 06:07
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 05:09
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 05:07
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 04:35
        System    Army Stormwald's Hounddogs destroyed     16 Jun 2011 04:22
        System    Failed attack against Spirit's forces at Square -335|-65 by Stormlord's forces from Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 04:22
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 04:07
        System    Victorious battle against Spirit's forces at Square -334|-67 by Stormlord's forces from Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 03:51
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 03:09
        System    Bombardment of Stormwald belonging to Stormlord begins!     16 Jun 2011 03:09
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 03:07
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 02:07
        System    An attacking army has begun a siege at Square -334|-67 (Stormwald)     16 Jun 2011 01:40
        System    Victorious battle against Spirit's forces at Square -336|-65 by Stormlord's forces from Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 01:35
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 01:07
        System    An attacking army has begun a siege at Square -336|-65 (Stormwald)     16 Jun 2011 00:53
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     16 Jun 2011 00:07
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     15 Jun 2011 23:07
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     15 Jun 2011 22:07
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     15 Jun 2011 21:07
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     15 Jun 2011 20:07
        System    Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald     15 Jun 2011 19:07
        System    Bombardment of Stormwald belonging to Stormlord begins!     15 Jun 2011 19:07
        System    An attacking army has begun a siege at Square -336|-66 (Stormwald)     15 Jun 2011 15:09
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     15 Jun 2011 12:22
        System    An attacking army has begun a siege at Square -335|-65 (Stormwald)
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     14 Jun 2011 15:17
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     14 Jun 2011 08:47
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     14 Jun 2011 08:02
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     14 Jun 2011 07:06
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     14 Jun 2011 04:56
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     14 Jun 2011 02:17
        System    An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald     14 Jun 2011 00:12
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 09:03
In addition, my reinforcements to Akura's capital finally arrive in 4hr, 5m from this post so I'll see what happens when former reinforcements land on a now hostile city.

I'll post the results here for science's sake.

Maybe they'll fight for 14 days Dead


Edited by Duuvian - 21 Jun 2011 at 09:05
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