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Llyorn Of Jaensch
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Joined: 31 Mar 2010
Location: Sydney
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Points: 924
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Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 02:12 |
Duuvian wrote:
By giving them enough gold that 1.5k adv elven scouts can't scout their cities due to scout defense while still having a very large army. By sheltering them while they build enormous armies, and supplying the resources and gold. All of these have been proven.
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How? Where?
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Duuvian
Greenhorn
Joined: 03 Nov 2010
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Points: 68
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Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 02:26 |
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I posted a FW from Stormlord where he took 75k adv resources from the CURSE player that didn't leave CURSE to join S&B yet was still sending armies at StA (while they were still in CURSE, it was Roller)
As far as sheltering while they built large armies, they only left CURSE about two weeks ago as Iduna said. They can't have built the armies sent in two weeks. There were over 35 siege engines going on Akura's cities, stacked with many thousand cavalry. Stormlord had a similar force sent to him but luckily it arrived piecemeal and was picked apart.
As for supplying the gold, how else could they possibly be paying for that many troops and diplos? Stormlord is our richest player and most active merchant, was constantly involved with the market since the first day, and told us he only has about 20 million.
Now, I was in the first tournament and burned through a lot of gold with a moderate sized army. I suppose they do have larger cities than I do, but I don't get where it hurts CURSE to have sent S&B gold as they were already in their alliance.
I don't see anything wrong with it, as I always supply my new alliance members; except S&B is using it to attack StA, which is smaller than both CURSE (by far) and S&B as far as active players large enough to be able to produce enough numbers of troops.
EDIT: I should say 35 on both of Akura's cities (for a total of 70), as well as another bunch of siege on Stormlord, I think 35 there as well though it may have been 45.
Edited by Duuvian - 20 Jun 2011 at 02:30
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Zork2012
Wordsmith
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
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Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 03:14 |
duuvian - because you dont understand how we are better traders than you are isnt our fault. maybe this wasnt a spur of the moment idea. maybe we have fought in many wars with our previous alliances, or still maybe we only had to make the siege weapons before we attacked. we are all previous Skull and Bones, we talk from time to time. as you can see it still took some time to get it together again. stormlord didnt go as well as planned, akura went better, 1 win , 1loss and 1 yet to be determined
Edited by Zork2012 - 20 Jun 2011 at 03:18
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Brids17
Postmaster General
Joined: 30 Jul 2010
Location: Canada
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Points: 1483
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Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 04:47 |
Duuvian wrote:
In addition, use common sense. While it's easy to claim to want a fair fight on a forums to look better to the public, would you really want the people who were in your alliance for the past six months to risk losing to a smaller alliance? Imagine how that would make you look. |
Common sense isn't common. Anyway, I really couldn't care less how I look in this game, so maybe this is why I fail to see why it would matter.
Duuvian wrote:
They can't have built the armies sent in two weeks. |
How is that relevant? Are the armies you built only two weeks old? Did you guys only start building troops when you got into the war? Everyone should have had their troops maxed out before the war, or at least close to it.
Duuvian wrote:
There were over 35 siege engines going on Akura's cities, stacked with many thousand cavalry. |
Who sends cavs to defend? They're practically asking to be wiped out...
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Mr Damage
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Posted: 20 Jun 2011 at 08:50 |
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No doubt S&B have planned their assault, so whether Curse aided them in the lead up or not is irrelevant. S&B are fighting on their terms as planned, it's now probably at a point for STA to make a strategic decision or 2 before things become untennable.
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Leungarific
Wordsmith
Joined: 28 Jun 2010
Location: Hong Kong
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Points: 114
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Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 03:52 |
G0DsDestroyer wrote:
Well I never attacked roller, all I've done is break sieges(only 3 of them, at this point), and in the siege armies I've destroyed, there haven't been any of roller's troops, to my knowledge. S&B would be better off just attacking, then i wouldn't have gotten involved.
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Duuvian wrote:
GD was a paid mercenary by StA, if he'd like to fight Roller that's fine
with me, but if the fight is solely instigated by Roller I at least
will have to support GD as he was simply a mercenary recruited from
Global chat and I can't let an honest mercenary be attacked for being an
honest mercenary.
EDIT: By that I mean if GD wants a 1-1, by all means, but if he doesn't then I'll help him
Also, good to see you back Iduna
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So basically Duuvian, you feel that the only way you wouldn't get involved is if GD was the aggressor? What if someone decides that they'll support Roller if GD crushes even one unit of his? Where would you stand then? Would you still come running to GD's support if Roller received backup? Would you start involving other alliances in this conflict? As GD said, there were no troops belonging to Roller in the armies he destroyed. Could you provide definitive proof of Roller's involvement in the sieges, or was Stormlord simply seeking to find an excuse to rob a CURSE player?
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Silent/Steadfast
Postmaster
Joined: 03 Jun 2011
Location: Pacific County
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Points: 553
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Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 03:58 |
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Who's winning? I can't tell because of all the arguing....
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"Semantics are no protection from a 50 Megaton Thermonuclear Stormcrow."-Yggdrassil (June 21, 2011 6:48 PM) "SCROLL ya donut!" Urgorr The Old (September 1, 2011 4:08 PM)
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Duuvian
Greenhorn
Joined: 03 Nov 2010
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Points: 68
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Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 07:57 |
I'll post a report in a moment, I'm afraid I have some very sad news and I'm very unhappy right now. This is a quote from Akura from the B12 forums. He quoted an earlier message of mine: Also, Akura, if you read this, got some news for you that you'll want to read in your message box. Very important.
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be honest, I don't really care anymore. With my capital taken, another
city razed completely, and a third close to suffering either fate, over a
year's worth time investment in this game is lost. You can do whatever
you want.
Edited by Duuvian - 21 Jun 2011 at 08:01
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Duuvian
Greenhorn
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Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 08:40 |
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for the forums Sent By: Stormlord [StA] Received By: You Date: 6/21/2011 8:38:40 AM
here duuvian show them this
System Reinforcements from naivuud have arrived at Stormwald 21 Jun 2011 00:59 System Reinforcements from Noryasha Grunk have arrived at Stormwald 20 Jun 2011 23:11 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 20 Jun 2011 10:18 System Reinforcements from Alexwazer have arrived at Stormwald 20 Jun 2011 01:01 System Reinforcements from duuvian have arrived at Stormwald 19 Jun 2011 21:05 System Failed Sally at Square -27|-313 by Akura's forces from Ragmurder 19 Jun 2011 02:43 System Reinforcements from Akhier have arrived at Stormwald 19 Jun 2011 00:51 System Your reinforcements for Ragmurder (Akura) have arrived 18 Jun 2011 22:23 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 18 Jun 2011 09:51 System Reinforcements from Alexwazer have arrived at Stormwald 18 Jun 2011 09:09 System Your reinforcements for Stormwald (Stormlord) have arrived 17 Jun 2011 17:40 System Reinforcements from Stormlord have arrived at Stormwald 17 Jun 2011 17:40 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 17 Jun 2011 10:15 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 17 Jun 2011 07:00 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 17 Jun 2011 02:20 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 17 Jun 2011 00:24 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 23:53 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 23:43 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 23:24 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 23:21 From Subject Date System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 23:06 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 22:24 System Army Defenders destroyed 16 Jun 2011 21:57 System Failed defense by Stormlord's forces at Stormwald under attack by Ifestion's forces from Alexandria 16 Jun 2011 21:57 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 21:24 System Reinforcements from Stormlord have arrived at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 21:19 System Your reinforcements for Stormwald (Stormlord) have arrived 16 Jun 2011 21:19 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 20:24 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 19:24 System Army Raiders destroyed 16 Jun 2011 18:40 System Failed attack against G0DsDestroyer's forces at Square -334|-67 by Stormlord's forces from Pope Threetoe's Basilica 16 Jun 2011 18:40 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 18:28 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 18:24 System Bombardment of Stormwald belonging to Stormlord begins! 16 Jun 2011 18:24 System Failed defense by Stormlord's forces at Stormwald under attack by Spirit's forces from WOLF PACK 1 16 Jun 2011 18:02 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 17:09 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 17:07 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 17:02 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 16:09 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 16:07 System Failed defense by Stormlord's forces at Stormwald under attack by Ifestion's forces from Nemesis Siege Encampment 16 Jun 2011 15:38 System Failed defense by Stormlord's forces at Stormwald under attack by Ifestion's forces from Neapolis 16 Jun 2011 15:18 System Failed defense by Stormlord's forces at Stormwald under attack by Ifestion's forces from Tripolis 16 Jun 2011 15:16 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 15:09 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 15:07 System Failed defense by Stormlord's forces at Stormwald under attack by Spirit's forces from Hardlanding 16 Jun 2011 14:40 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 14:18 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 14:18 System Failed defense by Stormlord's forces at Stormwald under attack by Spirit's forces from HARD ROCK 16 Jun 2011 14:16 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 14:09 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 14:07 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 13:57 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 13:46 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 13:09 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 13:07 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 12:58 System Army Wall Destroyer destroyed 16 Jun 2011 12:16 System Failed defense by Stormlord's forces at Stormwald under attack by Spirit's forces from AGAPE 16 Jun 2011 12:16 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 12:09 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 12:07 System Failed defense by Stormlord's forces at Dwarf Forest under attack by Borg's forces from Assimilation Center 16 Jun 2011 11:10 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 11:09 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 11:07 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 10:09 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 10:07 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 09:09 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 09:07 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 08:09 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 08:07 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 07:09 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 07:07 System An attacking army has begun a siege at Square -334|-65 (Stormwald) 16 Jun 2011 06:24 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 06:09 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 06:07 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 05:09 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 05:07 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 04:35 System Army Stormwald's Hounddogs destroyed 16 Jun 2011 04:22 System Failed attack against Spirit's forces at Square -335|-65 by Stormlord's forces from Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 04:22 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 04:07 System Victorious battle against Spirit's forces at Square -334|-67 by Stormlord's forces from Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 03:51 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 03:09 System Bombardment of Stormwald belonging to Stormlord begins! 16 Jun 2011 03:09 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 03:07 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 02:07 System An attacking army has begun a siege at Square -334|-67 (Stormwald) 16 Jun 2011 01:40 System Victorious battle against Spirit's forces at Square -336|-65 by Stormlord's forces from Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 01:35 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 01:07 System An attacking army has begun a siege at Square -336|-65 (Stormwald) 16 Jun 2011 00:53 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 16 Jun 2011 00:07 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 15 Jun 2011 23:07 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 15 Jun 2011 22:07 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 15 Jun 2011 21:07 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 15 Jun 2011 20:07 System Siege Engines from Spirit attack your buildings at Stormwald 15 Jun 2011 19:07 System Bombardment of Stormwald belonging to Stormlord begins! 15 Jun 2011 19:07 System An attacking army has begun a siege at Square -336|-66 (Stormwald) 15 Jun 2011 15:09 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 15 Jun 2011 12:22 System An attacking army has begun a siege at Square -335|-65 (Stormwald) System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 14 Jun 2011 15:17 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 14 Jun 2011 08:47 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 14 Jun 2011 08:02 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 14 Jun 2011 07:06 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 14 Jun 2011 04:56 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 14 Jun 2011 02:17 System An army from roller feinted an attack on Stormwald 14 Jun 2011 00:12
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Duuvian
Greenhorn
Joined: 03 Nov 2010
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Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 09:03 |
In addition, my reinforcements to Akura's capital finally arrive in 4hr, 5m from this post so I'll see what happens when former reinforcements land on a now hostile city. I'll post the results here for science's sake. Maybe they'll fight for 14 days
Edited by Duuvian - 21 Jun 2011 at 09:05
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