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dunnoob 
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Joined: 10 Dec 2011
Location: Elijal
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 Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 16:27 |
 Quackers wrote:
The 10 square rule is being polite but really it gives both towns the distance they need to grow using the sov around them. |
The exact number of interesting spots I've found in over 50 days with distance 10sq to any existing town is zero.
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Quackers
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Joined: 19 Nov 2011
Location: Jeff City
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Points: 435
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Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 17:03 |
dunnoob wrote:
Quackers wrote:
The 10 square rule is being polite but really it gives both towns the distance they need to grow using the sov around them. |
The exact number of interesting spots I've found in over 50 days with distance 10sq to any existing town is zero. |
5 food tiles can be interesting if you know how to use them. Believe me, I've done tons of math when it comes to this and so has some other people.
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Auraya
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Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 17:50 |
*yawns* I'd like to personally claim every tile with 0-0-0-0-0 resources. No-one is to settle there or risk angering the pandagods who shall smite you with thunder.
My point is that did anyone actually want to settle on Farra Isle before this? If you did and you have a spot outside the 10 square courtesy-zone then decide if your alliance are powerful enough to defend the spot. If they are, ask your leadership for permission and go ahead as planned. If StA wish to attempt to remove you, that is their prerogative. Theoretically, anyone can claim any square they want.
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Kumomoto
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Joined: 19 Oct 2009
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Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 21:57 |
Auraya wrote:
My point is that did anyone actually want to settle on Farra Isle before this? If you did and you have a spot outside the 10 square courtesy-zone then decide if your alliance are powerful enough to defend the spot. If they are, ask your leadership for permission and go ahead as planned. If StA wish to attempt to remove you, that is their prerogative. Theoretically, anyone can claim any square they want. |
Stop using common sense. It has no place in this thread... ;)
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Quackers
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Joined: 19 Nov 2011
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Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 22:41 |
Auraya wrote:
My point is that did anyone actually want to settle on Farra Isle before this? If you did and you have a spot outside the 10 square courtesy-zone then decide if your alliance are powerful enough to defend the spot. If they are, ask your leadership for permission and go ahead as planned. If StA wish to attempt to remove you, that is their prerogative. Theoretically, anyone can claim any square they want. |
Just know that if/when pathfinding comes along with boats, we might not be able to pass through the water with our armies. So please keep in mind that your towns might be left helpless later on. (Though that patch is probably a good year and a half away, if not longer.)
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bow locks
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Joined: 09 Mar 2010
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Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 23:06 |
Jane DarkMagic wrote:
I said very little about H? in my initial post, was just using it as a point of comparison... I don't understand your need to turn everything into a conversation about H?. My post was about making land claim and the need to be able to back them up. I'm done arguing with trolls. The world does not, in fact, revolve around you. |
jane,
Who was that directed at? I ask this since I am very concerned about the relative rotation of celestial orbs and my own personal place in the overall scheme of things. This is a natural human tendency.
So I hope you are not accusing me of trolling. I didnt talk about H?; i talked generally. Are you trolling me?
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Rill
Postmaster General
Player Council - Geographer
Joined: 17 Jun 2011
Location: California
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Points: 6903
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Posted: 07 Feb 2012 at 00:53 |
Auraya wrote:
*yawns* I'd like to personally claim every tile with 0-0-0-0-0 resources. No-one is to settle there or risk angering the pandagods who shall smite you with thunder.
My point is that did anyone actually want to settle on Farra Isle before this? If you did and you have a spot outside the 10 square courtesy-zone then decide if your alliance are powerful enough to defend the spot. If they are, ask your leadership for permission and go ahead as planned. If StA wish to attempt to remove you, that is their prerogative. Theoretically, anyone can claim any square they want. |
There is at least one city already being "removed" because of this. It is being done consensually (albeit not by preference). This is not a purely theoretical question.
Since it doesn't involve me directly, I am not expressing an opinion other than to say I think land claims that exclude all other comers are in general probably ill advised.
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abstractdream
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Joined: 02 Oct 2011
Location: Oarnamly
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Posted: 07 Feb 2012 at 03:01 |
Rill wrote:
Since it doesn't involve me directly, I am not expressing an opinion other than to say I think land claims that exclude all other comers are in general probably ill advised.
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Accepting that the idea of claiming land "exclusively" is ill advised leads me to the idea that "claiming" land in Elgea doesn't necessarily require all others to go or be removed. The power of the territory is generally determined as the power in any other way, that is the military strength, the diplo strength and the network of alliances (which goes beyond the previously mentioned ways). Sure "I want that" is a strong motivator but the powerful have learned patience. If there's anything Illy teaches us it's patience.
A very insightful man wrote "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." There's a lesson in there somewhere.
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Auraya
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Posted: 07 Feb 2012 at 14:12 |
Rill wrote:
There is at least one city already being "removed" because of this. It is being done consensually (albeit not by preference). This is not a purely theoretical question. |
Consensually (did you just invent a word? xD) is the key to that sentence. Said person had the choice to (attempt to) defend. I'm not saying it is right or wrong, I'm simply pointing out that if the person in question wanted to stay then they could have asked for assistance. This is an alliance with 19 players, only 4 of which are a formidable size. It requires ~6 vets to decide they disagree, team up and prevent it.
No-one seems to feel that strongly about it, one player is being inconvenienced that we know of.. if someone of a decent size in a larger alliance really wanted to move there, I doubt StA could stop them. If someone decided to move there purely on principle, good for them.. if no-one wants to do that then stop moaning, lol.
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Silverlake
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Joined: 15 Oct 2011
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Points: 417
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Posted: 07 Feb 2012 at 22:53 |
Brids17 wrote:
If Farra Isle was a square (which it's not) it would be 14,399 squares. That kind of pales in comparison to the roughly 70,000 squares that surround all H? cities. Just saying. |
Passive agressive much? You delight in those little H? jabs, no?
Jane DarkMagic wrote:
I don't mean to condone the claims made by H? for 10 square radiuses... |
Distort much? No one in H? made a claim, just a request to open communication.
Can't we just  it out?
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