[SOUTH] - Code of Conduct Signatories

These points, taken from KP's Peace thread, resonated with me:

4) Both sides will become the first signatories to an Illy War Convention which defines a code of conduct for alliance wars - terms such as not razing or sieging to under 2K pop, more than 30% of a players cities.

5) All signatories will work together to persuade other alliances to sign up and to prevent infractions.
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I don't think it's too radical of a statement to say that most of us here would rather not see Illy become like so many other games of this genre, where it is deemed acceptable to siege a player out of the game, or stalk them from one alliance to another for some or other perceived slight.

For our part, SOUTH is primarily a trading alliance.  We're small, we're regional, and we tend to stay out of everyone's way.  That said, I don't think I'm going out on much of a limb to say that behavior as described above isn't good for the game, and isn't a direction we want to head in.

I know it was KP's vision that they and this "Grand Alliance" (whatever that is - we've not been involved in the war, so I really don't even know what that is or means) would be the first signatories of such a pledge, but while the terms of a possible peace are being kicked about, I would like to formally support the proposition as outlined above. 

It seems to me that it is very much in keeping with the good heartedness and generosity we show to new players on their arrival here.  I myself was a recipient of such good will.  It was one of the things that made me decide to stay.  Having said that, such kindness and generosity is rendered rather pointless if we allow the other to occur.

Surely by now, whatever grudges both sides in this war had have been paid for in full by the blood shed thus far in the conduct of the war.  Let us have peace and rebuilding, and then, let us, as a community, reaffirm our commitment to a code of conduct that doesn't see us become like Evony and the rest.

Illyriad is special.

Let's keep her that way.  Anybody else from any other alliance that could get behind such a pledge, post your support for it here.

-=Vel=-

I appreciate your concerns, but I have to say that I do not really see how moving from a stance of pruning accounts rather than outright hunting them to extinction is any better.  At all. :)

I can tell you that if I were to lose three of my ten cities, I would regard that as a fairly serious consequence.  *grin*




Edited by Velociryx - 18 Jul 2014 at 08:09

No argument from me on the balancing of interests.  Clearly, such a pledge would need more than just the two highlighted points.  But I don't think you'd find many (warlike or peaceful players) who would make the claim that hunting accounts to extinction becoming increasingly commonplace is, by any definition a "good thing."  I would hate to see Illy become one of "those games" where as soon as the newbie protection disappears, out come the knives, which is exactly what such a stance opens the door to.  Balance interests?  Absolutely - but the points above should be a part of such a balance.

I think ultimately it is going to be up to the clear victors of this war.  Separate from the peace talks.

It's their server now.  We live in their shadow.  They may not set the full agenda, but they absolutely set the tone and call the tune.

Whatever world they choose to make, that's what's going to be.  If they decide that hunting to extinction is the new normal, then that's just how it is.  If they choose to open the door to such talks, that sends a very different (and much better, IMO) message.

Based on actions so far...I'm finding it unlikely that they'll be all that excited about the prospect of such talks.  Perhaps that will change in time, but on the basis of what we're seeing...at present, I can't say I have much faith in that.


Edited by Velociryx - 18 Jul 2014 at 08:26

I dunno 'bout the "yet to be seen," part, Grego...seems pretty clear to me who's gonna be stepping into that role.  The Grand Alliance is the new Sheriff in town.  From here on, everything they do (beginning with whether they keep the boot on H?'s neck until their opponents are dead, or whether they let them up, let them live, and rebuild) is going to resonate strongly throughout the tapestry of the game.
If The Grand Alliance hunts H? to extinction, that sends a message.  It's open season.  That's why it's incumbent on THEM, and not H? to end the war.

In the other thread, I offered up everything they asked for as terms went.  Everything they wanted...right there for the taking.

If the offer was genuine, they'll accept.

If not - I don't think it's a stretch to expect them to hunt to extinction, and then nobody's safe.

Could I be wrong?  Absolutely.  I am writing from a hospital bed and kinda dopey just now...LOL

But I don't think so.


Edited by Velociryx - 18 Jul 2014 at 08:37