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The_Dude 
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 Posted: 03 Feb 2013 at 21:42 |
I would like to point out that Factions have been promoted for about 2.5 years and still have not been released. Many things have been promoted and when ultimately released worked differently than originally promoted. So I don't think we should spend a lot of energy on imagining how TBL will actually work.
Personally, I would like to see the previously promoted unreleased features for Elgea to be completed before the creation of TBL - Factions, Pathfinding, Roads, Ships, Combat Magic.
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Darkwords
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Posted: 03 Feb 2013 at 21:47 |
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I feel there will be areas within the PvP zone, where people will only go if they are looking for a fight. As I reckon there will be some areas where the Factions will turn pretty violent. This will prob happen in Elgea also, we all need to keep that in mind.
Therefore these areas should in theory atract the ardent fighters in this game. However, anyone that goes to less violent, but non-protected areas is not necarsarily a 'PVPer'. And I expect, as that is most of the map and is the only area for sov, that area will include the majority of the current and mostly peacefull members of this game.
As has been said so many times here, if people think they can pick a target in the 'new lands' and just farm them without their friends standing up for them, then they need to think again.
As with many here I remember when Elgea was at the point that BL will be, in that is had just started. We will all be limited by resource capability, building levels and most importantly (as you cant speed it), research.
I also remember when the first alliance acheived all the seige techs ;) that was an interesting time.
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Brids17
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Posted: 03 Feb 2013 at 22:06 |
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It's not that we don't grasp the concept, Brids, it's that we disagree with you. People may settle outside the PvP free zone in the Broken Lands because they want to do something that is not possible in Verten, such as claim sovereignty, not because they want PvP. The existence of a zone in which PvP is not allowed, under severe restrictions, is not a reason to banish people who are not interested in PvP to some sort of ghetto that severely restricts their potential for growth. |
If you want to settle in an area where you can claim sov, settle in Elgea. There's absolutely no reason to settle another 10 cities, in an area that in no way, shape or form can interact with your other 10 (if you even have 10) just to do the exact same thing you do on Elgea. Why would anyone want an expansion in which they do the exact same thing they do in the main game?
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Darkwords
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Posted: 03 Feb 2013 at 22:08 |
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Because at some point you will be able to transfer stuff between all 20 cities perhaps?
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twilights
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Posted: 03 Feb 2013 at 22:31 |
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i hope everyone that demands that current play continues in the new lands are supporting illyriad by purchasing prestige. remember this is a business and the amount of work in coding the new area should be rewarded. maybe others should be aware of this instead of expecting just a bigger free play ground. this is a war strategy game and we already seeing bullying of older larger alliances against people that want to play a different style. shame on you for need to control everything. we definitely need new people playing this game and u are chasing away the war gamers by making this a chat room and expecting the game to provide you tournaments when u have player vs player sitting right in front of you. its a free speech forum so let me have it.
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ES2
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Posted: 03 Feb 2013 at 22:36 |
gameplayer wrote:
i hope everyone that demands that current play continues in the new lands are supporting illyriad by purchasing prestige. remember this is a business and the amount of work in coding the new area should be rewarded. maybe others should be aware of this instead of expecting just a bigger free play ground. this is a war strategy game and we already seeing bullying of older larger alliances against people that want to play a different style. shame on you for need to control everything. we definitely need new people playing this game and u are chasing away the war gamers by making this a chat room and expecting the game to provide you tournaments when u have player vs player sitting right in front of you. its a free speech forum so let me have it.
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If people here want TBL to be have as many peace periods as Elgea does, then they will Fight for it, such as you will fight for freedom to fight. it's PvP. Twilights, you don't want PvP, you want you in a position to win PvP, otherwise you could pick a fight with anyone in Elgea and get your pvp.
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Angrim
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Posted: 03 Feb 2013 at 22:37 |
Brids17 wrote:
Why would anyone want an expansion in which they do the exact same thing they do in the main game?
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they will not be doing the exact same thing. even though the alliances will be the same, the interrelationships will be different because the geopolitics will be different. also, the broken lands will have its own quest line, which is an attraction to some. i could just as easily ask why anyone has an alt, when the world is the same...what can one possibly do with an alt that one can't do with one's main? on the surface, nothing. in the details...many things.
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Brids17 wrote:
That's completely different and you know it.
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no, i really don't think it is.
Edited by Angrim - 03 Feb 2013 at 22:40
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Darkwords
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Posted: 03 Feb 2013 at 22:42 |
gameplayer wrote:
i hope everyone that demands that current play continues in the new lands are supporting illyriad by purchasing prestige. remember this is a business and the amount of work in coding the new area should be rewarded. maybe others should be aware of this instead of expecting just a bigger free play ground. this is a war strategy game and we already seeing bullying of older larger alliances against people that want to play a different style. shame on you for need to control everything. we definitely need new people playing this game and u are chasing away the war gamers by making this a chat room and expecting the game to provide you tournaments when u have player vs player sitting right in front of you. its a free speech forum so let me have it.
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If you honestly want PvP then what is your problem with people wanting PvP against you. No-one is saying there will be no fighting, they are just saying that if you want a fight, be prepared for one. Thats the size of it, if you dont like it then you are obviously not up for an honest fight, so stop claiming you are.
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Angrim
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Posted: 03 Feb 2013 at 23:04 |
gameplayer wrote:
this is a war strategy game and we already seeing bullying of older larger alliances against people that want to play a different style. shame on you for need to control everything. we definitely need new people playing this game and u are chasing away the war gamers by making this a chat room and expecting the game to provide you tournaments when u have player vs player sitting right in front of you. its a free speech forum so let me have it.
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i suggest that this can be characterised safely as "pro-war crying".
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