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LostEros
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Joined: 25 Jul 2012
Location: United States
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Points: 46
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Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 07:13 |
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Blood baths are bad for the pores.
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Rorgash
Postmaster
Joined: 23 Aug 2011
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Points: 894
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Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 08:40 |
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Bah, weaklings...
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abstractdream
Postmaster General
Joined: 02 Oct 2011
Location: Oarnamly
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Points: 1857
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Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 10:59 |
G0DsDestroyer wrote:
-TLR made ridiculous demands for the TRO surrender.
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...and TRO accepted. Is it like selling drugs or prostitution wherein the "victim" does time too, or is it more of a white collar crime like a pyramid scheme wherein the "victim" is considered dumb but innocent? I'd like a serious answer. This is considered crime enough to launch a war. Let us define the crime for future players.
G0DsDestroyer wrote:
-Eternal Fire, as he is the leader, should be punished for being a bad winner, as i shall call it. along with those that helped in the war. |
OK. Fair enough. Y'all hate EF. I get it.
Along with the circumstance referenced above it seems it was enough for you guys to pull the trigger, so it does, in my personal opinion call into question any Peace agreement which does not address this. Since it is highly unlikely that the emotion attached will just cease because a war was ceased what might the next circumstance be that would cause you to pull the trigger? Maybe a list of actions that EF and TLR cannot take would be in order?
G0DsDestroyer wrote:
We are not out to eliminate TLR, as some foolishly think. I would like to, but i restrain myself from that due to other people who have suffered that fate. Not that sieging EF out of the game would make him leave though, that's another matter though. As for not attacking people under 15k pop, what is done is done. I've told my members not to attack anyone under 15k pop, but the war started sooner than we had anticipated, so things got messy.
As to we would think no one would care, we knew people would have problems, there always is, but i know people who went around siege happy and no one did anything about it, not that anyone would remember that or care to.
No one decided to step in and do something about these demands made by TLR of TRO, we acted, while you who felt it was wrong did nothing. |
So basically, you feel it is your right to dictate terms between two independent alliances? Never mind that Thordor asked you for help, you did not declare War nor were you involved in the ToS. No one stopped you from involving yourselves during the negotiation process. Why wait? Because all you lacked was a facade of a reason to annihilate us. It is your hate for EF that drives this and that is why any Peace deal brokered without addressing that is useless.
G0DsDestroyer wrote:
That's all I have to say at this time.
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Bonfyr Verboo
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Tordenkaffen
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Joined: 16 Oct 2010
Location: Denmark
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Points: 821
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Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 11:27 |
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Abstract, was Hannibal Foul Wind correct when he assessed that you previously played the account Attila the Hun?
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Gemley
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Joined: 20 Feb 2011
Location: Ralidor
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Points: 586
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Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 11:55 |
Tordenkaffen wrote:
Abstract, was Hannibal Foul Wind correct when he assessed that you previously played the account Attila the Hun? | Lol, EF is ATH not Abstract.
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�I do not love the bright sword for it's sharpness, nor the arrow for it's swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend� - J.R.R. Tolkien
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abstractdream
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Joined: 02 Oct 2011
Location: Oarnamly
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Points: 1857
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Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 12:13 |
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I have only played Bonfyr Verboo and Wilberforce.
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Bonfyr Verboo
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Ossian
Forum Warrior
Joined: 12 Oct 2010
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Points: 456
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Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 12:16 |
Gemley wrote:
Tordenkaffen wrote:
Abstract, was Hannibal Foul Wind correct when he assessed that you previously played the account Attila the Hun? | Lol, EF is ATH not Abstract. |
Of course I know a thing or too about who sits what account at different times, for instance I know who sits Wolfgangvondi  ..and I know thing to about dolphins as well. I also happen to know that Lady Xaylia of Dlords, if you'll pardon the expression, does it standing up  ...but Tord...my friend... you have been in this game long enough not to have to rely on the word of Hannibal Foul Wind aka Belladonna ( wolfwhistles  ) There's no point trying to spread false rumours about abstract dream . As Gemley says EF was ATH. Everybody knows that.
Edited by Ossian - 27 Jul 2012 at 13:35
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Tordenkaffen
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Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 12:43 |
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My mistake then - I always assumed EF and Abstract were the same.
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Endrok
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Joined: 12 May 2012
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 104
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Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 12:53 |
Juswin wrote:
As stated in that post:
"To limit the threat that TRO presents to The Long Road by prohibiting all TRO cities of three thousand population and higher within 700 squares of the coordinate 610, 891 in diameter."
There you go. That is unacceptable, imo.
I do find it strange that so few reacted to this surrender term. I know, all that shiz about the terms being agreed on blah blah. But we all know that TRO has no choice but to accept them since they lost. The winner, imo, should be reasonable in their demands. Limiting TRO city sizes? 700 squares radius is a pretty large area. Basically, TLR is prohibiting TRO cities of 3000 pop and above in a 1,538,600 square area. That is a huge area. Not all of that is within the existing map, but you get my point.
Aesir acted strongly on their convictions, and Endrok showed one clear reason why. Let em have a go at it. |
Juswin, Thanks for your thoughts on this. Glad it's not just me who finds this particular term to be unacceptable. Much has been said about the right, wrongs and reasons for this war, but few have chosen to actually criticise and perhaps more importantly none have chosen to defend it ...... Maybe it's a Dwarf thing!
Me finding this unacceptable is NOT intended as direct criticism or TLR, EF or TRO (for accepting it). It is the general principle of that kind of condition and the long term limitations it puts on ANY alliance or players ability to enjoy and explore this game to its full extent that I see as a cause for concern. It adds limitations to peaceful game play as well as war fighting.
Diplomatically things seem to be improving and hopefully will continue to do so, so to avoid any misunderstanding, I will stress again that this is just MY view and does not represent any statement from the AEsir alliance / leadership.
E.
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Wolfgangvondi
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Joined: 04 Sep 2011
Location: Orc Grand Arena
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Points: 106
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Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 13:38 |
Ossian wrote:
Of course I know a thing or too about who sits what account at different times, for instance I know who sits Wolfgangvondi 
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What are u talking about? What does my sitters have to do Whit anything? By the way, both are the Leaders from SCH.
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