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Originally posted by Ten Kulch Ten Kulch wrote:

It would be more interesting to see the changes in attack, defense, diplomacy. That would demonstrate who has been fighting.

I agree. Smile

Here's a new data set including additional data points from the alliance leaderboard page. Given I don't have the historic values for this data, today's data will represent the new baseline for future comparisons that I will periodically post.

Current Stats

Elgean Alliances
  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
Aesir 6,796 79 649 11,730,953 67,487,588 4,659,770 1,906,591 12,375,681
Unbow 6,924 56 502 8,694,929 23,073,559 1,000,943 823,490 13,419,362
EE 4,793 59 435 7,561,739 46,998,700 4,367,713 2,113,335 13,504,697
mCrow 4,842 60 437 6,828,189 64,597,034 2,995,521 1,387,500 6,438,464
Storm 3,391 33 291 5,299,341 35,654,793 2,830,773 1,811,255 11,106,742
Hell 2,100 29 193 3,078,157 11,507,134 1,818,797 152,523 2,137,541
eCrow 1,207 13 106 1,884,520 39,676,646 3,089,581 329,396 9,902,535
TEA 617 7 46 634,177 764,685 28,149 17,791 733
Bane 746 14 96 1,617,336 3,877,813 480,862 30,698 596,949
TROUT 443 9 54 728,625 1,522,518 265,220 4,915 313,380
Valor 151 22 67 235,752 659,029 271,273 21,345 7,524
SV 26 3 10 20,984 14,556,024 2,849,606 228,821 42,069
WOT 2 1 2 2,316 25,419,879 2,773,639 852,608 6,264,454
32,038 385 2,888 48,317,018 335,795,402 27,431,847 9,680,268 76,110,131

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  Land Mem Towns Pop Atk Build Diplo Def
LOKI 3,312 48 349 4,777,607 22,448,760 1,884,672 1,837,154 6,501,461
SIN 2,736 24 188 2,695,321 57,933,653 2,704,555 2,045,239 41,062,879
TA2IN 2,002 16 125 1,467,800 5,947,576 471,085 864,462 6,773,055
300 1,135 7 59 914,233 6,129,184 165,472 120,559 4,577,446
9,185 95 721 9,854,961 92,459,173 5,225,784 4,867,414 58,914,841



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It would be more interesting to see the changes in attack, defense, diplomacy. That would demonstrate who has been fighting.
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Looks like a few changes going on :) the population and town data is interesting as well as the sov. Fun to follow

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Here's how things have changed after ten days, broken down by Current Stats, Numeric Delta, and Percentage Delta. All deltas are comparisons against the stats posted initially. If any alliances have joined or left the war, please let me know and I'll update accordingly.

Current Stats

Elgean Alliances
  Pop Mem Towns Land
Aesir 11,725,303 79 649 6,800
Unbow 8,683,847 56 502 6,931
EE 7,548,590 60 436 4,807
mCrow 6,826,900 60 437 4,843
Storm 5,299,030 33 291 3,391
Hell 3,075,239 29 193 2,100
eCrow 1,884,489 13 106 1,207
TEA 634,034 7 46 617
Bane 1,617,262 14 96 746
TROUT 728,128 9 54 443
Valor 235,519 22 67 153
SV 20,984 3 10 26
WOT 2,316 1 2 2
48,281,641 386 2,889 32,066

SINdicate
  Pop Mem Towns Land
LOKI 4,772,964 48 348 3,311
SIN 2,696,746 24 188 2,744
TA2IN 1,466,471 16 124 2,001
300 914,215 7 59 1,135
9,850,396 95 719 9,191

Numeric Delta

Elgean Alliances
  Pop Mem Towns Land
Aesir -135,358 -1 -10 23
Unbow 488,234 2 25 424
EE -246,569 0 -8 -70
mCrow 447,929 2 20 383
Storm 217,440 3 19 255
Hell 23,686 -2 -2 44
eCrow -422,292 -3 -22 -234
TEA -117,004 -1 -9 -181
Bane 5,808 0 0 3
TROUT -217,841 -1 -12 -129
Valor 8,650 -1 -1 16
SV -16 0 0 0
WOT -9,911 -1 -4 -4
42,756 -3 -4 530

SINdicate
  Pop Mem Towns Land
LOKI -34,135 -5 -14 26
SIN 370,724 3 22 136
TA2IN -85,518 0 -5 -138
300 -54,522 0 -4 -52
196,549 -2 -1 -28

Percentage Delta

Elgean Alliances
  Pop Mem Towns Land
Aesir -1% -1% -2% 0%
Unbow 6% 4% 5% 7%
EE -3% 0% -2% -1%
mCrow 7% 3% 5% 9%
Storm 4% 10% 7% 8%
Hell 1% -6% -1% 2%
eCrow -18% -19% -17% -16%
TEA -16% -13% -16% -23%
Bane 0% 0% 0% 0%
TROUT -23% -10% -18% -23%
Valor 4% -4% -1% 12%
SV 0% 0% 0% 0%
WOT -81% -50% -67% -67%
0% -1% 0% 2%

SINdicate
  Pop Mem Towns Land
LOKI -1% -9% -4% 1%
SIN 16% 14% 13% 5%
TA2IN -6% 0% -4% -6%
300 -6% 0% -6% -4%
2% -2% 0% 0%
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Here's how things have changed after six days, broken down by Current Stats, Numeric Delta, and Percentage Delta. All deltas are comparisons against the stats posted initially. If any alliances have joined or left the war, please let me know and I'll update accordingly.

Current Stats

Elgean Alliances
  Pop Mem Towns Land
Aesir 11,761,347 79 653 6,752
Unbow 8,215,213 54 480 6,537
EE 7,806,302 62 448 4,919
mCrow 6,297,821 57 409 4,467
Storm 5,067,519 30 271 3,136
Hell 3,066,238 30 194 2,090
eCrow 2,290,295 15 126 1,429
TEA 884,694 9 65 869
Bane 1,615,200 14 96 744
TROUT 730,194 9 54 443
Valor 229,422 21 65 146
SV 21,024 3 10 26
WOT 2,316 1 2 2
47,987,585 384 2,873 31,560

SINdicate
  Pop Mem Towns Land
LOKI 4,595,811 47 338 3,123
SIN 2,324,221 21 165 2,603
TA2IN 1,475,580 16 124 2,012
300 974,766 7 63 1,223
9,370,378 91 690 8,961

Numeric Delta

Elgean Alliances
  Pop Mem Towns Land
Aesir -99,314 -1 -6 -25
Unbow 19,600 0 3 30
EE 11,143 2 4 42
mCrow -81,150 -1 -8 7
Storm -14,071 0 -1 0
Hell 14,685 -1 -1 34
eCrow -16,486 -1 -2 -12
TEA 133,656 1 10 71
Bane 3,746 0 0 1
TROUT -215,775 -1 -12 -129
Valor 2,553 -2 -3 9
SV 24 0 0 0
WOT -9,911 -1 -4 -4
-251,300 -5 -20 24

SINdicate
  Pop Mem Towns Land
LOKI -211,288 -6 -24 -162
SIN -1,801 0 -1 -5
TA2IN -76,409 0 -5 -127
300 6,029 0 0 36
-283,469 -6 -30 -258

Percentage Delta

Elgean Alliances
  Pop Mem Towns Land
Aesir -1% -1% -1% 0%
Unbow 0% 0% 1% 0%
EE 0% 3% 1% 1%
mCrow -1% -2% -2% 0%
Storm 0% 0% 0% 0%
Hell 0% -3% -1% 2%
eCrow -1% -6% -2% -1%
TEA 18% 13% 18% 9%
Bane 0% 0% 0% 0%
TROUT -23% -10% -18% -23%
Valor 1% -9% -4% 7%
SV 0% 0% 0% 0%
WOT -81% -50% -67% -67%
-1% -1% -1% 0%

SINdicate
  Pop Mem Towns Land
LOKI -4% -11% -7% -5%
SIN 0% 0% -1% 0%
TA2IN -5% 0% -4% -6%
300 1% 0% 0% 3%
-3% -6% -4% -3%

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Originally posted by Snagglepuss Snagglepuss wrote:

Well you're not a bystander anymore Viper :)

Didn't realize you were in charge of the Hello Kitty organisation, we ll make sure to contact you when we need our litter box cleaned. 
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Well you're not a bystander anymore Viper :)
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As a bystander to the party, so to speak it always slays me when one side accuses the other of name calling and personal attacks.  Name calling and personal attacks are a two way street with both sides driving on the same street.  The don't do as I do, but do as I say philosphy, only holds hot air.  GC trolling is part of every war in Illyriad and will continue to be so.  To quote "I always tell the truth, even when I lie" end quote.  I do think both sides are having a bit of pixel fun. Carry on but don't expect everyone to believe the hype.
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Originally posted by Bartleby Bartleby wrote:

Where can we place our bets? I've got some cattle to wager!


Bart, the bets in this game are cities and armies. You place them on the map where you see fit.
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Originally posted by Hucbold Hucbold wrote:

Not all (on either side) are involved but at least this can be objectively replicated.

So what was wrong with Sauron's map? You can objectively replicate his map! He plainly took a snapshot of all the alliances that are currently at war, and that picture shows SINdicate being vastly outnumbered in Elgea.

Sorry that I'm not buying your "objectivity". Kinda hard to, when it's coming from the person who resorts to name-calling and personal attacks at every turn. Perhaps your intent was not to embellish, but it resulted in a pretty significant distortion of the war map. A picture is worth a thousand words, disclaimers are just a fine print underneath it.

When you consider only the alliances that are actually doing something the map becomes smaller on both sides. Quite a few of Loki members in Elgea are brand new players, and aren't ready to participate in war. A few of the alliances that are formally at war are being hardly active. If you pare this map down to only active players who engage in meaningful military action, it will shrink on your confed's side considerably.

Still your confed's advantage in Elgea is quite clear. More players, more cities, more resources. Will it help you? Well, clearly I've made my bets. Dovie'andi se tovya sagain.
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