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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 2013 at 00:13
No actually it appears clear, that you are attempting to troll this thread by telling everyone they are wrong.  You spew 10 paragraphs of non sense and then finish asking the same question that the thread started with.  Which has been answered.

Oh and the more important question of once you know the answer to is it offense or defense does it matter?  The answer being not in the slightest.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 2013 at 00:08
Is this a " last word I win"- thing DeathDealer ? 

Good luck. 








edited: removed d between DeathdDealer, was spelling error, my mistake. 


Edited by Shadar Logoth - 21 Apr 2013 at 00:40
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All that is said is my own opinion. I am not a leader nor voice for Invictus. I will always abide by Invictus's rules.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 2013 at 00:03
Shadar, i'm going to take a page out of your book on this one.

You question was already answered before you even asked it several times.  Go back and read the thread.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Apr 2013 at 23:54
Sorry... forgot one thing, ... it means nothing to anyone, certainly not to T_D but it has been bugging me. 

Telling people they should shape up cause this is all a game, isn't such a smart remark when you yourself, in times past, were willing to siege your own towns down, as you felt let down by the system yourself. 

Now, ... let me spell this out. The_Dude send in his own alt (el speffe) to kill off his own towns on the The_Dude account, because .... " he wasn't having any fun"... in other words. Someone was plotting against him.

If you ask anyone, any of the old players in that time, and yes, I even seen his new-found buddies do that, then they would tell you that at a certain time they were just sick of " the drama-queen" .

This is how proud you should be of denouncing others for leaving the game when they weren't having any fun. 

.... Please.... I will have fun with you anyother day. But don't even try to deny this. 

The drama-queen remarks in GC came even from current day allies. 

I am done with this. 




Edited by Shadar Logoth - 21 Apr 2013 at 00:06
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Apr 2013 at 23:36
Ok, lets break the dude's file open.

You certainly never learned anything from it. So we might as well, right?

It's a long story. So i will try keep it short. 

Did he and I have a past at that time, we sure did? And we were both struggling with it. (My alt was in his alliance). 

The_Dude never mentioned anyone about the fact that Warrior Bunny (Invictus) came to his aid when he was in trouble. 

The_Dude joined other alliances, fine, good on him. That alliance chose to war on H? 
Fine, no problem with me either. 

That war was cause of it's leader who lied to his people. Shoot! Most of the community felt bad for him. 

His bad ex-leader decided to wage a war on The_Dude, but first went for an invictus member as this person had agrood him enough, called Kaboom. The community came together, and yes, The knights who  say Ni, got repelled. 

What truelly was a terrible thing to happen, was that he then decided to go after T_D again. (oh there go the sad feelings for t_d up a notch)

T_D was even right that the members in the new to be formed TMM (which i jokingly called, the marshmallow man) were in fact just the one old remaining member of the Knights who say Ni, going after him with a vengeance. And he did. 

TMM in the meantime also insisted on all malmothians to join them, or get killed. 

H? had members who were befriend, or claimed to be so, with other players that were hunted by TMM. In forum posts they will explain that H? members have a large autonomy with regards to which wars they do, and do not involve themselves in. (A lot more alliances joined in, and history does not tell u that Invictus, with me as its leader, had offered T_D to take him on in our alliance and thus shelter him. Sure, it would take some work, but the offer was there). Eventually a lot of alliances helped bring TMM down, T_D and me cleaned up the rest. And in this case, T_D and I can still agree, it was necessary. 

Now.... going back to the question of this forum post. 
When is breaking a siege an aggressive action or not, to suddenly make it more sense? 

I know no one will like me for asking this question, just like Hath MUST HAVE BEEN wrong to dare ask it... but next time i go to war. I would like it to be it for a valid reason. Not just some lie. 

And if go to war alongside someone next time... then i also would like to be certain that their reasons are truethfull. 

People might have a lot of thoughts about these hundreds of people that were part of Consone, but no one really ever wondered why not even ONE of these members EVER spoke up against the so-called aggressiveness of their leaders, unlike the fact that their were h?/coalition members, who at the very least, doubted the reasons for this war.

Again, this post isn't about the last war. But I, and a lot of other people, would surely like to know when, and when not, they are expected to be causing grieve to some other alliance if they are ever to undertake such an action again in the future. 



 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Apr 2013 at 23:06
I get the sense that Shad is upset that Consone lost the war while he was away from Illy.  Things will happen when you're away.  

I'm sure there will be a replay in a year or two since both side survived this war.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Apr 2013 at 23:02
Originally posted by Shadar Logoth Shadar Logoth wrote:

Sorry T_D .

There was a time I had expected more from you. But lately I have lost all respect for you.

Please, ones you have learned some self-reflection, try and talk to me again. Because if you really want me to tell people about what the past was like, you might look a bit silly.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Apr 2013 at 23:02
Twilight.... u might have been right, ... If u hadn't been part of the alliance that DOES care about it's reputation. 

And obviously I am the person who is trying to make some other alliance seem the bad guy. But I don't even care who that other guy is. I do care if they are going to use the same excuses a next time. 

Now, you might not like that last part. But it doesn't change the fact that a lot of people are wondering about that. 
And, really, this last part is for you... you don't get to tell other people when/if a game is still a game, or if it seizes to be a game. 
The only person who will decide that for him/her-self, is that person. 
THIS IS THE ONLY REAL FACT ... sorry for yelling... as i never yell, and even now, didn't mean it that way. I just wanted to make something perfectly clear. No one gets to tell anyone when the game stops being a game, when it stops being fun, ... and if it wasn't clear before. I already pointed out to people from the past that there has been a point in which they didn't think this game was fun anymore. Upto the point they wanted to give up. But now, since they were winning for ones, suddenly other people, who claimed to be not having any more fun, were suddenly rediculous. 

Sorry. Enough is enough. Don't pretend to be role playing, if you cant play your role. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Apr 2013 at 22:59
There is no offense or defense between alliances. There is action and reaction. If you don't want a reaction from someone  you should only apply diplomacy and never take action, however, if you act against someone (direct or indirect) it stands to reason they can choose to react however they see fit. Any interpretation beyond that point is subjective and therefore not relevant to this discussion.

Will that be the end of it?


Edited by Tordenkaffen - 20 Apr 2013 at 23:03
"FYI - if you had any balls you'd be posting under your in-game name." - KP
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Apr 2013 at 22:51
personally i am tired of people picking on harm? this is a war strategy game and its time people realize its an online game. if one side tries to gain an advantage on the other side it is normal to attack them. i dont know where all  this self righteous bs comes from....play the game! there is no advantage if its defensive or offensive. and if any attacks another its makes no difference. we playing a game here peeps, it has no effect on real or personal life...please role play...i have never read so much wimp loser type forum writing ever!
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