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Starry 
Postmaster
Joined: 20 Mar 2010
Location: California
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Points: 612
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 Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 22:58 |
 Grunvagr wrote:
What don't I like?
I don't like that this top alliance feels it even has to ask for public opinion before it can attack someone. If you want to protect newbies then do it. Be strong and decisive and others will respect your strength and your decisiveness.
Polling is wrong. What does it matter what global chat thinks? It makes me think about future wars, any wars to come, in Illyriad. Will H? have a poll then? Either jump into a war because you have a strong sense of pride or purpose, or stay uninvolved because it doesn't concern you or your interests.
That is my point.
I don't want to be starting any trouble so I'll go ahead and shut up for now.
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H does protect newbies, they were the first major alliance to support and protect the new players in Toothless, where have you been? Toothless is a sister alliance to Harmless. Honestly, they can't win, if they jumped in without discussing it, they would be criticized, now they are criticized because they asked the players. From the very beginning, Harmless has championed and helped new players, I know because I was in Harmless during those days. This entire issue involved H? from the start, Toothless members have been threatened and attacked by TMM (see my topic in this same forum). I was also very concerned that any help we received from H would be perceived as H policing the server. Frankly, I think HM did a great job of going public with their dilemma and taking a stand on this. You may want to read the other topics about TMM including the topic involving Toothless before you continue your comments against H, Grunvagr.
Edited by Starry - 20 Nov 2010 at 23:00
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scottfitz
Forum Warrior
Joined: 22 Apr 2010
Location: Spokane WA USA
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Points: 433
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Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 22:45 |
I did not vote. In as much as I am not a member of H?, my opinion on the decisions that H? makes is a bit irrelevant. Now I am going to go back to minding the affairs of MY alliance.
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Grunvagr
Greenhorn
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
Location: USA
Status: Offline
Points: 61
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Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 22:41 |
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What don't I like?
I don't like that this top alliance feels it even has to ask for public opinion before it can attack someone. If you want to protect newbies then do it. Be strong and decisive and others will respect your strength and your decisiveness.
Polling is wrong. What does it matter what global chat thinks? It makes me think about future wars, any wars to come, in Illyriad. Will H? have a poll then? Either jump into a war because you have a strong sense of pride or purpose, or stay uninvolved because it doesn't concern you or your interests.
That is my point.
I don't want to be starting any trouble so I'll go ahead and shut up for now.
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Noryasha Grunk
Wordsmith
Joined: 11 Jun 2010
Location: Armokumid
Status: Offline
Points: 156
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Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 22:17 |
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Hyeah! H?, stop beink selfish. Let us hef some fun! ;)
Seriously doh, dey's bigs players are pretty big. And hI'm sure ve'll still find some fun to hef. :P
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-hypocritical-
Greenhorn
Joined: 11 Sep 2010
Location: Ireland
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Points: 81
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Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 22:14 |
Grunvagr wrote:
If they do get involved, i'd like to see them just kill the TMM troops and not destroy any cities of theirs... but I have a feeling if they get invovled it's to catapult the crap out of a potential future threat in TMM.
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I called this in the good/h? thread!! 
but in all seriousness they are removing known players who are activvely attacking and razing new players for no reason and so no remorse or will to stop
that said I would rather see a few mid sized factions join up and have a pop, rather than h? do all the work, but still I dont care if they help out or not, the result will be the same, only with h? it will be more efficent
(new conspiracy theory: h? looking to steal xp points from other alliances for their comanders?  )
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Grunvagr
Greenhorn
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
Location: USA
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Points: 61
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Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 22:08 |
fluffy wrote:
im curious who are the 5 people that said no and why they choose that.
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I voted no. I don't like H? getting involved in this at all. It seems like any excuse is a good excuse to fight. And Harmless strengthens their position if they have an excuse to bully a top 10 alliance, especially when there is little to no risk to themselves, since it's not a 1v1 against TMM. I think H? should mind it's own business instead of policing Illyriad. What I would MUCH prefer to see, is a lot of small/medium alliances banding together for a fair fight against TMM. To me this is just a perfect excuse by bored members in H? with huge armies to go blow up a strong alliance in TMM, without the public opinion being against them. I for one don't approve. If they do get involved, i'd like to see them just kill the TMM troops and not destroy any cities of theirs... but I have a feeling if they get invovled it's to catapult the crap out of a potential future threat in TMM. my2cents - and im not saying I support TMM in the war, either.
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Noryasha Grunk
Wordsmith
Joined: 11 Jun 2010
Location: Armokumid
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Points: 156
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Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 21:54 |
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hI voted no because hevery city H? razes is vone less hI can conquer. ^vvv^
But mostly because hI tink it vould be nice to see vot can be accomplished vitout dem.
hI don't really mind dem participatink, doh.
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Faya
Greenhorn
Joined: 18 Jun 2010
Location: USA
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Points: 44
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Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 21:44 |
Deathwolf wrote:
Well as a member of T? they had threatened and attacked one of our new players before he could even respond to his messages. That just shows that they are idiotic bullies. So yes H? should go in along with anyone else in the top 5 alliances as a combined force to show you don't ruin the game for new people because that kills the game.
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Good Day all,
We were also approached to assist in this war. As a top 5 alliance, I agree we need to get involved. Goonies are happy to to send bullies back to the depths they came from. We will come to the assistance of US if we are needed. We are happy to see Harmless involved in this and greatly respect the manner in which they approached getting involved.
Faya Goonies
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Starry
Postmaster
Joined: 20 Mar 2010
Location: California
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Points: 612
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Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 20:41 |
HonoredMule wrote:
TMM has 15 members. I'd rather expect at least 10 no votes from them alone. 
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Not if some of their members were coerced into joining.
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HonoredMule
Postmaster General
Joined: 05 Mar 2010
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 1650
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Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 20:21 |
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Nah, it would be foolish to step into a loaded audience like this. It just provides fuel for your enemies.
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