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Poll Question: Should Harmless fight and disable TMM to protect newbies?
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Points: 124 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 05:32
I hope you don't mean me Tellis.
I did all I could within reason to accomodate TMM but they wouldn't compromise in any way.
There was a singular incident where Nige said he would look at my arguments and get back to me, but when he did he didn't even reference them or discuss them, he just kept saying the same, that we should disband and merge with them.
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Points: 1650 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 05:30
@Kelis2:

negotiations have already failed after ongoing discussions between TMM and several affected alliances in the area.  In every case TMM's position has been intractable and untenable for any who would remain independent (i.e. free).

The idea that conflicts should be solvable without violence is a noble but ultimately willfully naive position that elevates unwillingness to exert violence over any other value--including freedom and/or unwillingness to sacrifice ones self to received violence.
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Points: 612 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 05:29
There isn't any negotiating with TMM, Kelis.   Their stance with US, Toothless and any other player in their "so-called" territory is join us or we'll seige you out of our space.     They never made a public announcement about their intentions for that area priior to activation of the spell to move.    Toothelss and US members both settled there, along side of TMM.    I shudder to think of the unaffiliated players they have already run out of this game because they claim they have rights to that territory.   

They don't have rights to that area, period.   We all moved there and we can live in peace, TMM's position is join or be destroyed.      Again, call it like it is, bullying.

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I admit to not having followed the issue, but from what I can see (only our side), I want to keep the bullies off the street.

However, direct action should only be applied when negotiations have failed. 

Whoever lead those negotiations should step down or be fired.

< ="-" ="text/; =utf-8">< name="ProgId" ="Word.">< name="Generator" ="Microsoft Word 9">< name="Originator" ="Microsoft Word 9"> "The direct use of force is such a poor solution to any problem, it is generally employed only by small children and large nations."  -David Friedman
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I say H? should do what they want just like in previous cases. If H? wants to join in a War join, if H? dosen't don't. I say H? should make its own choice.
 
I say do whats right, but do what you feel.
 
I'm not saying I've made the right decisions all the time and I'm not saying H? has made wrong decisions. I'm sayind theres always 2 paths and one has to be the one must take.
 
Aesir has made there choice and it will be shown later.
 
PS Theres always another rout like off road but that is chaotic.
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 i think H? should get involved to make TMM humbled, but i doubt TMM is going to be humbled, so...they are probably going to have to be downsized. So H? seems like the best possible people to do this.
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Points: 14 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 05:07
i say yes! why sit around and wait while TMM goes around killing noob friendly alliances? i vote yes. i will use my Armys to defend ANY
T? member that gets attacked.

Edited by rebel5360 - 20 Nov 2010 at 05:08
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Originally posted by Shadar Logoth Shadar Logoth wrote:

Hi HM,

always love reading your posts.
 
So to answer you honestly.
 
If H? isn't going in, we will anyway.
 
I do have to be honest we are in a bind right now, so we can't respond just yet the way we would like to, but I hope to solve that problem at our earliest convenience :p
 
However, we totally agree with your grievances against TMM. We, that being Invictus and Victrix, would be honoured to join you. And if you decide not to make that step, we will still go along. TMM have something coming yet.
 
To be honest, there is just one outcome to this.
 
Nige, Butler, Juno, Yoshi-sumtin, and ava-sumtin positions die.
 
Their friends have a little time to still negotiate with us. But not to long, cause the wheel/sands of time is/are running out for them.
 
*Shadar Logoth scratches his bald head while picking some meat from between his teeth*


The time for negotiations is over. To war, brothers, to war.
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Hi HM,

always love reading your posts.
 
So to answer you honestly.
 
If H? isn't going in, we will anyway.
 
I do have to be honest we are in a bind right now, so we can't respond just yet the way we would like to, but I hope to solve that problem at our earliest convenience :p
 
However, we totally agree with your grievances against TMM. We, that being Invictus and Victrix, would be honoured to join you. And if you decide not to make that step, we will still go along. TMM have something coming yet.
 
To be honest, there is just one outcome to this.
 
Nige, Butler, Juno, Yoshi-sumtin, and ava-sumtin positions die.
 
Their friends have a little time to still negotiate with us. But not to long, cause the wheel/sands of time is/are running out for them.
 
*Shadar Logoth scratches his bald head while picking some meat from between his teeth*
More Orc, less talking!

All that is said is my own opinion. I am not a leader nor voice for Invictus. I will always abide by Invictus's rules.
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Points: 43 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Nov 2010 at 04:53
Shuey vote yes. 
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