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Truth
Greenhorn
Joined: 07 Oct 2011
Location: Truth
Status: Offline
Points: 57
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 13:27 |
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I can understand the 10 square rule if an alliance had a big hub of one area on the map. However, H?'s members have towns all over the map. So, this request or I mean order by H? is an unfair one. Like a few members said already, this method can be abused by H? members all over the map by simply moving a town in an area, thus causing turmoil.
How is this request much different then the alliance that got sieged out of the game for stating claim to one territory on the map? The alliance said they would siege any non member on the map that moved in the territory. H? and the coalition did not like this and sieged them out of the game. Here H? is now doing what they did not like in the past and it is okay now. Irony at its best.
I feel it is time for a new server as well.
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Binky the Berserker
Forum Warrior
Joined: 19 Jul 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 257
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 12:17 |
sounds pretty much like the same tactic an Austrian painter used to go for. "I want that area." some time later: "I also want that area." Just going on and on until it was almost to late to stop him and millions died because others gave in to the first requests. Glad no one dies in illy, but still...
Edit: This post is not meant as an insult. Great tactic to control the server.
Edited by Binky the Berserker - 13 Nov 2011 at 12:25
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Kilotov of DokGthung
Postmaster
Joined: 07 Jun 2011
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Points: 723
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 11:28 |
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hypocritical? no no my dears.. subjects may move their towns if they want to accommodate the player that requests such move.. if not, may get removed by force. sorry but newbies get enough privileges in this game. this is simply the rule.
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LordOfTheSwamp
Forum Warrior
Joined: 23 May 2011
Location: Swamp of Fyrgis
Status: Offline
Points: 481
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 11:04 |
Mr Damage wrote:
Seem to remember a similar issue a while back, now what happened there? Oh yeah big player was not happy with a smaller player being close to his city................you all know the story, the bullying word got bandied about, anyway territorial claims are quite within the rules, quite a realistic method too, boom tish! Its a bit hypocritical on H's behalf considering their previous actions but I see it as unavoidable for not just H but all of us so I support the tactic, lets see how it goes from here with the rest of the alliances. |
Broadly: "what he said".
On the fine print: it is not hypocritical of H? to claim the right to approve settlements within X of their holdings. They have never said, AFAIK, that anyone shouldn't do this. Of course there has been outcry over this sort of thing before, and if anyone were inclined to scream and shout in previous incidents, it would be fair to accuse them of hypocrisy if they didn't make noise now.
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"A boy is building sandcastles on a beach. You go and kick down his castle. You could say that it only reflects how you play with sandcastles. Others may think it reflects who you are." - Ander.
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Kumomoto
Postmaster General
Joined: 19 Oct 2009
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Points: 2224
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 10:54 |
Celebcalen wrote:
Same old...same old. KP tries raise the 10 square rule to try inject a bit of contention and gain kudos at the same. The fact is that very few players will respond and even more just can't be bothered to pay any attention at all. Why? Because they have heard it all before and it is boring!
It's time for a new server.
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I love it every time the "we failed at this server, let's start again" crowd decides to crow...
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Honeyrose
New Poster
Joined: 02 Nov 2011
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Points: 9
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 10:25 |
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hmmm well i'm new n i'm readin :) just learnin as I go :)
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Celebcalen
Forum Warrior
Joined: 18 May 2011
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Points: 288
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 10:16 |
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Same old...same old. KP tries raise the 10 square rule to try inject a bit of contention and gain kudos at the same. The fact is that very few players will respond and even more just can't be bothered to pay any attention at all. Why? Because they have heard it all before and it is boring!
It's time for a new server.
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Honeyrose
New Poster
Joined: 02 Nov 2011
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Points: 9
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 10:06 |
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Hello :)
just tryin to make sense of it all...so the "ten square" respected/ownership/squares applies to everyone or just "the big players"? I think it is kinda sad to have to ask anyone to move a city due to just their size...maybe someone doesn't want to cause trouble or wants to move closer to their own city n yet THAT big player is in the way...think it works either way...:) ...if ya really think about it, do the big players feel like they have to ask? just curious :)
thanks
Shella
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Mr Damage
Postmaster
Joined: 01 Jan 2011
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Points: 598
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 10:05 |
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It'll get complicated but its unavoidable, the outcome will, as always, be decided mostly by he who has the greater strength, that is the reality. You have already mentioned alot of what lies ahead Sloter and it will be interesting to watch how it plays out.
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Sloter
Forum Warrior
Joined: 14 Aug 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 304
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Posted: 13 Nov 2011 at 08:55 |
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Lets have all top 5 alliances declare 10 square rule and and see whats left of the map :)
If there will be 10 square rule then it needs to be more precise.What is status of hubs?If there is H? player does that mean that NPC hubs will be restricted to others?Also what about more densely populated area like Middle kingdom where there are cities packed close from several alliances.What would happen if two players (one from h? and one from some other alliance) already have cities within 10 sq and player not in H? wants to reinf his cluster by settling new city within that 10 sq?If i wanted to settle new city in old Invictus hub in Middle kingdom i dont think i will ask permision from H? that has cities within 10 sq of it.Also some players have joined H? in past few months and they are still close to their old neighbours that can create many situations.Also Larn is traditionaly used for Victrix new players and many Crow players and no teritorialism was present there before.Are they all to ask aproval from H? players when settling new cities in something that is considered free land for new players?
That 10 square rule needs to be more specifiic or H? diplomats will be very busy.I think that many will respect that 10 sq where there are H? clusters like in west Tallimar, Lan Larosh or Azura, but i cant see that people will humiliate them self by asking if they can settle new city near their previous city , if it is within 10 sq of H? city, or near NPC hubs or areas that are traditionaly "free for all" like central regions
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