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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Sep 2011 at 21:18

> FW: Victorious defense by Johnny112's forces at Gorian under attack by Venita's forces from Venita
> Received: 26 Sep 2011 04:05
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Two opposing forces clash against each other.

Cavalry comes into its own when able to strike hostile forces at will, and from unexpected directions - and nowhere is this more feasible than on open plains. Lightly armoured spear units, however, prefer terrain where there's some cover available.

Fighting defensively on open plains, cavalry draws strength from the ability to form and reform their lines of engagement depending on the direction of battle, and it is here where cavalry excels.

Attackers: Unit: Quantity: Casualties: Survivors:
Commander: Vswordsman Swordsmen Swordsman 1 Damaged for 100, 0 health remains.
Troops: Pikemen Pikemen 201 67 134
Commander: Vowman Longbowmen Longbowman 1 Damaged for 100, 0 health remains.
Troops: Longbowmen Longbowmen 16 5 11
Troops: Charioteers Charioteers 44 14 30
Troops: Knights Knights 41 13 28


Defenders: Unit: Quantity: Casualties: Survivors:
Commander: Ajax the Strong Pikemen Pikeman 1 Damaged for 39, 111 health remains.
Troops: Militiamen Militiamen 3 1 2
Troops: Pikemen Pikemen 91 12 79
Troops: Swordsmen Swordsmen 11 1 10
Troops: Men-at-Arms Men-at-Arms 93 12 81
Troops: Longbowmen Longbowmen 22 2 20
Commander: Apollo Longbowmen Longbowman 1 Damaged for 39, 111 health remains.
Troops: Longbowmen Longbowmen 100 13 87
Troops: Pikemen Pikemen 23 3 20
Troops: Men-at-Arms Men-at-Arms 15 1 14
Commander: izzy Fangs Fang 1 Damaged for 39, 61 health remains.
Troops: Fangs Fangs 82 10 72
Troops: Fists Fists 59 7 52
Commander: victor reznov Kobold Cohorts Kobold Cohort 1 Damaged for 39, 61 health remains.
Troops: Clanguards Clanguards 50 6 44
Troops: Kobold Cohorts Kobold Cohorts 42 5 37
Troops: Death Dealers Death Dealers 65 8 57
Commander: victor Wolfriders Wolfrider 1 Damaged for 39, 111 health remains.
Troops: Wolfriders Wolfriders 16 2 14
Troops: Death Packs Death Packs 191 25 166
Troops: Men-at-Arms Men-at-Arms 5 1 4
Troops: Archers Archers 6 2 4
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Sep 2011 at 00:51
Originally posted by StJude StJude wrote:

Originally posted by Lisa Lisa wrote:


In all seriousness, please try to keep your PR campaigns in the Bitter Sea instead of GC (Politics and Diplomacy is fine too, I do not see how that is any different from a bitter sea). Venting is good for you, just please do not drag GC down with it.


I assume this is Fairy Lisa? If so "Hi!"

I am going to get on my soapbox for a moment here, this is not directed at you solely, but at a lot of people who are turned off by the asshattery that can occur in GC.

A successful PR campaign does not limit itself to one audience or media.

For those not interested in the political metagaming that occurs in GC, I would like to remind everyone that there is a "Block Player" function built into chat so that you may ignore the shenanigans and not be "dragged down" by the tug of war happening on your screen.

In summary, objection noted, but GC is a valuable tool to sway public opinion and you are unlikely to see an end to this type of activity.


have to agree with ST Jude here. He has a point.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 20:06
Originally posted by StJude StJude wrote:

Originally posted by Lisa Lisa wrote:

Please excuse me for not wishing you luck in this conflict though, I will not pick sides in a conflict that does not involve my alliance, so instead, I hope you both resolve this swiftly without inflicting too much damage to each other, unlikely as that seems from this vantage point and probably is from the relevant vantage points.

That was diplomatically put, you must have kids or be a teacher? Tongue

I will take this opportunity to post our official stance, we outlined it in GC, but may as well put it here too.

HAVOC are a shell of their former selves, they have lost most of their good and more active players. At this point, it wouldn't be much of a fight I am sad to say and they lack any real tactical ability now that Pulvorize and Daufer are gone. I personally would feel like I was beating up a toddler.

So, we will smash any sieges sent at us (or most likely Driad) and possibly neuter any cities we see with serious threats, but we will not be actively pursuing this conflict. (Yes, we have scouted several of their cities)

There will most likely be the odd blights and hostile diplos, but in general, we are playing this one defensively, unless given a real need to do otherwise.

Hopefully HAVOC get bored swinging their fists and the whole hullabaloo dies down with no loss of cities to their side.



well now the major players that where preventing your petty newbie skirmish  are kinda busy whit a true  Great War ... so feel free to hit each others to death if you want to...
and no one will even care about. there are much more important issues now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 14:11
Originally posted by Lisa Lisa wrote:

Please excuse me for not wishing you luck in this conflict though, I will not pick sides in a conflict that does not involve my alliance, so instead, I hope you both resolve this swiftly without inflicting too much damage to each other, unlikely as that seems from this vantage point and probably is from the relevant vantage points.

That was diplomatically put, you must have kids or be a teacher? Tongue

I will take this opportunity to post our official stance, we outlined it in GC, but may as well put it here too.

HAVOC are a shell of their former selves, they have lost most of their good and more active players. At this point, it wouldn't be much of a fight I am sad to say and they lack any real tactical ability now that Pulvorize and Daufer are gone. I personally would feel like I was beating up a toddler.

So, we will smash any sieges sent at us (or most likely Driad) and possibly neuter any cities we see with serious threats, but we will not be actively pursuing this conflict. (Yes, we have scouted several of their cities)

There will most likely be the odd blights and hostile diplos, but in general, we are playing this one defensively, unless given a real need to do otherwise.

Hopefully HAVOC get bored swinging their fists and the whole hullabaloo dies down with no loss of cities to their side.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 07:34
Originally posted by geofrey geofrey wrote:


If anyone supports ICON in this endeaver, we will all know they support the activity that Johnny is condoning.


Eh? So if someone supports ICON, you will all know that they will be supported by Johnny?

Originally posted by Dictionary Dictionary wrote:

con-done
1. Accept and allow (behavior that is considered morally wrong or offensive) to continue.
2. Approve or sanction (something), esp. with reluctance.


Is that what you meant to say? If yes, cheers. If no, then I quite frankly can't see any reason for you coming onto this thread other than to interfere between the HAVOC vs ICON war, similar to your vendetta against Gaius/Gaia.


Edited by Leungarific - 23 Sep 2011 at 07:36
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 07:12
Originally posted by StJude StJude wrote:

Originally posted by Lisa Lisa wrote:


In all seriousness, please try to keep your PR campaigns in the Bitter Sea instead of GC (Politics and Diplomacy is fine too, I do not see how that is any different from a bitter sea). Venting is good for you, just please do not drag GC down with it.


I assume this is Fairy Lisa? If so "Hi!"

I am going to get on my soapbox for a moment here, this is not directed at you solely, but at a lot of people who are turned off by the asshattery that can occur in GC.

A successful PR campaign does not limit itself to one audience or media.

For those not interested in the political metagaming that occurs in GC, I would like to remind everyone that there is a "Block Player" function built into chat so that you may ignore the shenanigans and not be "dragged down" by the tug of war happening on your screen.

In summary, objection noted, but GC is a valuable tool to sway public opinion and you are unlikely to see an end to this type of activity.

Hello, yes this is Fairy Lisa, just Lisa is fine though for those who can't be bothered to type that.

Duly noted, and it is a fair point, whatever topic takes hold takes hold in GC anyway, it is just as much your right to post there as it is anyone else's. I am not online nearly often enough for nearly long enough to hold a decent discussion in GC much, but I had some leftover (irrational) guilt as a former member of Havoc because of what GC looked like sometimes during the first war so I felt the plea needed to be made.

Please excuse me for not wishing you luck in this conflict though, I will not pick sides in a conflict that does not involve my alliance, so instead, I hope you both resolve this swiftly without inflicting too much damage to each other, unlikely as that seems from this vantage point and probably is from the relevant vantage points.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 00:40
Originally posted by Celebcalen Celebcalen wrote:


I would like to pay tribute to BaughB who is now suspended. Many players will disagree with his style of play but it can't be denied that he stuck to it. Despite being put under a lot pressure he didn't sell out and whether you agree with someone's playing style or not you must always admire them for sticking to it when the odds were stacked against them.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 2011 at 18:46
There are many victories to be had both on the battlefield and off it.

Johnny was wise to make his declaration of intent on the public forums, so no member of ICON can twist Havoc's intentions into some kind of political ploy to get others to fight for them.

If anyone supports ICON in this endeaver, we will all know they support the activity that Johnny is condemn.

Just because ICON may have more military might and ingenuity doesn't mean they are in the right.

Edit: condone -> condemn... curse this wretched language.


Edited by geofrey - 23 Sep 2011 at 17:01
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 2011 at 18:08
Hope the animation didn't cause offense. I was just having some fun. There are some fine players in both alliances and lets face it they have both had to start from scratch and survive amongst ( and been interfered with by) some much larger kudos seeking alliances.

One of the positives about this (and there are some) is that both alliances have very distinctive approaches to the game which are equally valid when assessing Illyriad gameplay.

I would like to pay tribute to BaughB who is now suspended. Many players will disagree with his style of play but it can't be denied that he stuck to it. Despite being put under a lot pressure he didn't sell out and whether you agree with someone's playing style or not you must always admire them for sticking to it when the odds were stacked against them.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Sep 2011 at 15:24
Originally posted by Lisa Lisa wrote:


In all seriousness, please try to keep your PR campaigns in the Bitter Sea instead of GC (Politics and Diplomacy is fine too, I do not see how that is any different from a bitter sea). Venting is good for you, just please do not drag GC down with it.


I assume this is Fairy Lisa? If so "Hi!"

I am going to get on my soapbox for a moment here, this is not directed at you solely, but at a lot of people who are turned off by the asshattery that can occur in GC.

A successful PR campaign does not limit itself to one audience or media.

For those not interested in the political metagaming that occurs in GC, I would like to remind everyone that there is a "Block Player" function built into chat so that you may ignore the shenanigans and not be "dragged down" by the tug of war happening on your screen.

In summary, objection noted, but GC is a valuable tool to sway public opinion and you are unlikely to see an end to this type of activity.
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