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Mr Damage 
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 Posted: 11 May 2012 at 12:50 |
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He (or she) who has the bigger stick makes the rules, pretty simple.
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Durin the deathless
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Posted: 11 May 2012 at 11:33 |
 Myzel wrote:
If your idea of a 'sandbox' is being able to do whatever the hell you want without suffering any consequences to your actions, then no, this is not a sandbox game. No multiplayer game can be.
'Rules' and 'pacifist communities' aside, what it comes down to is realizing that even though you technically can do what you want, you are playing with other people. Playing the game the way you want will potentially cause other people to -not- be able to play the game -they- want. Your self-righteous claim to sandbox freedom would be at the expense of others. One way or the other, this is unavoidable, I think.
If you're one of those kids that likes to run through a sandbox stomping other kids' sand castles, you will surely find that the rest of the sandbox might not tolerate your presence.
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Nailed it  That's exactly what I was thinking how to say.
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Myzel
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Posted: 11 May 2012 at 11:09 |
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If your idea of a 'sandbox' is being able to do whatever the hell you want without suffering any consequences to your actions, then no, this is not a sandbox game. No multiplayer game can be.
'Rules' and 'pacifist communities' aside, what it comes down to is realizing that even though you technically can do what you want, you are playing with other people. Playing the game the way you want will potentially cause other people to -not- be able to play the game -they- want. Your self-righteous claim to sandbox freedom would be at the expense of others. One way or the other, this is unavoidable, I think.
If you're one of those kids that likes to run through a sandbox stomping other kids' sand castles, you will surely find that the rest of the sandbox might not tolerate your presence.
Edited by Myzel - 11 May 2012 at 11:12
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lokifeyson
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Posted: 11 May 2012 at 11:05 |
its a sandbox...just a sandbox with other kids to play with...like at the park...lol 
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Brids17
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Posted: 11 May 2012 at 03:18 |
That's not sandbox. That's bending the "rules" so that you can still kind of accommodate your playstyle but at the same time never really experience it fully.
If I wanted to have an all out war without everyone jumping in on me, I'd have to first find a willing alliance that agreed not to involve anyone else in it, make it clear to everyone else to stay out of it(good luck), make sure that nothing I did was seen as "bullying" or I'd have to face the wrath of the community and hope none of that fails. And so easily could it fail. All it would take would be on guy to complain to GC or one alliance or player to jump in because they think they should be part of it and then entire thing would come crumbling down.
That's just not sandbox. That's trying not to step on the pacifist communities toes all the while still not fully experiencing all out war because it would be a planned out setting between two hopefully trustworthy alliances that had nothing against each other. You have to cut yourself short and that's cutting the sandbox short. It's like I can build a sandcastle but I can't build towers or a moat. Sure, I still built a sandcastle but it's limited.
Edited by Brids17 - 11 May 2012 at 03:21
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Skim Milk
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Posted: 11 May 2012 at 02:46 |
No no, it's a sandbox. You can play however you want, whenever you want. Those that want to be aggressive, can be aggressive. Those that don't, will still employ self-defense.
Assuming the driving idea behind opposing "Play nicely or we'll eliminate you" is "I want to fight", then I think there's a function in the game to fulfill the "Fight" thought. Form an alliance with others that agree with that idea. The game is fully capable of aggressive playing.
"Play our way" dominates because people fight back. With greater numbers. I suppose you could get around that with some creative recruiting for a war-faring alliance, if you were inclined to do so.
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Subatoi
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Posted: 11 May 2012 at 02:29 |
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So calling illy a sandbox is the wrong definition for the game ?
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Brids17
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Posted: 11 May 2012 at 01:58 |
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Yeah, pretty much. Follow our rules or we'll siege you out of the game. Though to be honest, I don't think a sandbox game can truly exist in a multiplayer setting. You're always going to have someone telling you, you can't play that way. Singleplayer games are usually the only way you can really experience that "play in any way imaginable" without fear of being stomped out by someone who doesn't like it the way you're doing it.
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Rorgash
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Posted: 11 May 2012 at 01:52 |
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yea, its a sandbox game, if you wanna live dont be an ass :D
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Createure
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Posted: 11 May 2012 at 01:46 |
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I'd say anyone can play in any way they like... they just have to realise that any action might have various reactions (from other players)... same as real life I guess.
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