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scaramouche
Forum Warrior
Joined: 25 Apr 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 432
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Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 10:58 |
I have to admit to myself the timing and planning of H? instigation that has led to the current events are commendable and totally brilliant, even if I and my fellow alliance members will probably be soon at the receiving end of this war.
last tournanment WE tried to hold azura against H? and although I thought we gave them a reasonable fight their strength was too great for us, big players from H?, such as kumo were throwing thousands at us...however this time all they threw at us was failry regular armies of around 60 troops from a couple of players such as JimJams and Sarah from the start.
I was fooled into thinking they were just biding their time before they moved in...lmao, I was fooled all right , but not for the reasons i thought.
Without a doubt they had another agenda which most certainly has been planned before the tournament started and all they required was a catalyst..hence the ABSA/RHY incident.
Hats off to H? for knowing how to play the game to its FULL potential....you have taught me lots..if I get through this is one piece I will never be so gulliable again.
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NO..I dont do the Fandango!
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Ander
Postmaster General
Joined: 24 Apr 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 1269
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Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 11:05 |
Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:
in light of Consone and Harmless publicising their respective troop strength, Ill go with population. |
Over the past week, our players with 6 cities, 5 cities and 4 cities were sieged. No single attacks at any of the warchiefs. If you dont know who the warchiefs in Absaroke are, it is Grego, Qaal, me, Jorcle, Neytiri and Arudur.
Russian blue hardly had any troops, she was too busy shipping resources and helping several new players grow fast in Keppen. The few little troops she had, she spent on breaking sieges on the tiny players around her, while her own cities were being bombarded (and razed, after we agreed for a ceasefire).
If evoking disgust was part of your war plan, it is working well.
So far I have seen no pluck from you Lyorn, only a willingness for indiscriminate aggression. I am waiting for you. Come and get me.
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Ander
Postmaster General
Joined: 24 Apr 2011
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Points: 1269
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Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 11:10 |
@ Bradley, Myr & their associates in NC
30 attacks against Russian Blue and none against the warchiefs who are 5 times closer to you than her? If such brave folks as you were fighting alongside me, I would have quit the war in shame.
The game is a total blast. But not for the folks like you. For the folks like the 4 small alliances who broke champagne in GC yesterday. Go Eagles! Go Druids! Go Frost! Go Roads! 
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Llyorn Of Jaensch
Postmaster
Joined: 31 Mar 2010
Location: Sydney
Status: Offline
Points: 924
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Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 11:19 |
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I have no wish to 'come get you' Ander.
Simply stated you started a war with RHY, you both called in your friends (one before the other). To date it has not fared well for you.
Call me when a H? siege destroys your city.
Or yell at VIC as to why RHY's friends are more able than yours. Either Or.
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"ouch...best of luck." HonoredMule
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Ander
Postmaster General
Joined: 24 Apr 2011
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Points: 1269
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Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 11:30 |
Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:
I have no wish to 'come get you' Ander.
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You had the wish to go after players with 4 cities, reinforce sieges against them, but you have no wish to come at me? What is the grand war plan? To destroy small players who doesn't even have sally forth researched, and expect the rest of us to leave in disgust?
Replace 'wish' with pluck, and you can be honest.
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Llyorn Of Jaensch
Postmaster
Joined: 31 Mar 2010
Location: Sydney
Status: Offline
Points: 924
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Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 11:57 |
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We did?!?
Mate, seriously. You hit RHY first lad. Remember that.
Harmless are basically doing a better job of reinforcing RHY sieges than VIC is of breaking them.
Look to your actions perhaps mate. And those of your ally. It may help.
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"ouch...best of luck." HonoredMule
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Ossian
Forum Warrior
Joined: 12 Oct 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 456
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Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 12:58 |
Rasak wrote:
I really don't get all this anti H? sentiment going around. As I see it they are supporting an ally that was attacked without provocation. Simple as that. Spin it anyway you want, that's it when you boil it down. Which of you would not do the same? |
My reading of the threads concerning this latest war is that most of the anti H? sentiment stems dierctly from strongly held suspicions that H? 's intentions are less to do with solving the dispute itself and more to do with their attitude that twoards CONSONE ( which 4 or 5 H? members keep referrring to , contemptiously as Soup).
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Arian
Wordsmith
Joined: 11 Nov 2011
Location: UK
Status: Offline
Points: 139
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Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 13:03 |
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I'm nothing to do with H? or Consone or Absa or Dlords or anyone else in this sorry mess)... And yes I am anonymous on here, initially that was by mistake, but I have come to see that speaking ones mind freely isn't a safe thing to do and I have no wish to see catapaults lurching into my back yard. So I'm staying anonymous and if that means someone feels obliged to call me a coward then so be it - my self preservation and maturity quotient is sufficiently high to take silly schoolyard insults without any problems. Still means I have a right to an opinion though.....
Why can't H? just admit they were spoiling for a fight over any old excuse that came to hand and cease the ridiculous self justifications which fool absolutely no-one? Personally I would have a great deal more respect for them if they did. H? states on just about every occasion (and its certainly on their alliance profile) that they don't attack small players who haven't participated in attacks against them or sent aid etc, and yet we see one or two player writing above or mentioned above who clearly weren't involved and yet are being attacked.
H? declared war on Vic and Absa.......... not the other way round............. whilst the people in Vic and Absa were under the (obviously erroneous) impression that they were in the middle of negotiating a peace and had began to withdraw their siege breakers...(not their offensive on other cities you notice - as they DIDN'T have anything threatening anyone cities).... So no more twaddle about who is the aggressor and who isn't please. Its difficult to put "spin" on the blindingly obvious and fails on several levels.
I can completely understand an alliance wishing to retain their top dog status and feeling threatened by a meta confederation the size of Consone.... that's all the justification you need guys, stop making stuff up and just get on with it, this playing to the gallery is completely unnecessary. You want to fool yourselves feel free, but don't insult the intelligence of the rest of us.
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'Do you want ice with that?'
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Sisren
Forum Warrior
Joined: 03 Feb 2012
Location: PA, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 446
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Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 13:03 |
Ossian wrote:
Rasak wrote:
I really don't get all this anti H? sentiment going around. As I see it they are supporting an ally that was attacked without provocation. Simple as that. Spin it anyway you want, that's it when you boil it down. Which of you would not do the same? |
My reading of the threads concerning this latest war is that most of the anti H? sentiment stems dierctly from strongly held suspicions that H? 's intentions are less to do with solving the dispute itself and more to do with their attitude that twoards CONSONE ( which 4 or 5 H? members keep referrring to , contemptiously as Soup).
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The anti-H? stuff has been going on long before Consone announced that it was Consone...
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Ossian
Forum Warrior
Joined: 12 Oct 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 456
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Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 13:20 |
Jasche wrote:
Harmless have been an excellent top alliance during their time in Illyriad, they have been big contributors in making it a place which welcomes new players and encourages growth and development. However, for me personally and for my friends, this is no longer the case. If the ‘game’ will always involve the biggest alliance maintaining its power and crushing anyone for any reason that it sees as a threat to its supremacy (even when those players explain that they have no intention to cause any threat) then the game would soon lose its attraction to anyone but the most aggressive of players.
Having invested time, energy and funds into this game, together with my friends, I refuse to roll over in the face of what we do not agree with. We will defend our cities with every last drop of blood we can find. We will always be open to listen to peace suggestions but in the absence of any communication in regard to this we will give no quarter in defense of our cities and what we believe in. |
This post , I think, sums up what is wrong with the outdated approach of H?'s leadership to the game of Illyriad as well the effects that their current style of play will have for the future enjoyment of the game for those who love it. I hope that the more sensible members of H? will start to apply the brakes on their leadership before they ruin the game completely
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