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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 15:10
Originally posted by Smoking GNU Smoking GNU wrote:

As it is i feel physically sick having to apparently be stuck on THIS side of the situation.


Originally posted by Grego Grego wrote:

Your morality makes me sick, I can only hope that you don't have actual power in RL.


Seriously? You guys need to take a step away from the computer and chill out.


GNU - with respect to the rest of your ramblings:

The thing that you and pretty much everyone else seems to be ignoring is that the Absa intervention only occurred *after* an agreement was reached between RHY and SkB over the mine and who was going to have what.

That is why this is not about a mine and that's why this dispute is between RHY and Absa (although it seems that SKB decided yesterday they were missing out on the fun and send tens of thousands of troops into the fray).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 15:19
Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:


That is why this is not about a mine and that's why this dispute is between RHY and Absa (although it seems that SKB decided yesterday they were missing out on the fun and send tens of thousands of troops into the fray).

Skb's attacks as of yesterday is a most interesting development. If they had that kind of firepower at their disposal all along, why did they call on Absa for help during the initial mine incident? They clearly had the strength needed to address it with Rhy, yet they brought in a major confed at the very start. And as you pointed out, Absa attacked Rhy AFTER Rhy and Skb had an agreement.

It seems to me that Absa and Skb had intentions for major escalations from the very beginning. Add to that the taunting emails from Absa and their early avoiding of any real diplomatic negotiations, and it gives the appearance that Absa wanted a major conflict from the start.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 15:20
Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:


The thing that you and pretty much everyone else seems to be ignoring is that the Absa intervention only occurred *after* an agreement was reached between RHY and SkB over the mine and who was going to have what.

If an agreement was reached, why was there still troops on the square they agreed to leave?

Originally posted by Ander Ander wrote:

 
Absa involvement in this was Messer and Hugie attacked the camp 5 and 7 days after promised withdrawalof RHY troops. Their actions were out of personal friendship with involved SkB members and we fully back their actions.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 15:30
Originally posted by The_Dragon The_Dragon wrote:

Since when Confederation relationship have to be announce publicly in order to make it valid? Who creates that rule?

Look at alliances list, count how many alliances which has no confederation at all. If one of those alliances get attacked, is no alliance allowed to help it because the alliance who got attacked has no "Confederation" word in it's alliance diplomacy page?

For example, will Consone swear that they will not help Soon if Soon get attacked by an alliance because Consone don't have "Confederation" relationship with Soon in their alliance diplomacy page?

Placing an army next to other's town is also can be considered as a war invitation. If you put your army next to other's town and he is not only attack your army but also declare war to you, you have to accept that. No one has the right to decide whether his reaction is over reaction or not.
Did I say that alliance can't help other alliance if they are not confederated? No.
Did I say that Confederation relationship have to be announce publicly? No. It is publicly visible no need to announce.
I did say that RHY and H? are not confederated which is fact.

Nice, so you also agree that first agressive action or "war invitation" in this conflict was by RHY.

Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

The thing that you and pretty much everyone else seems to be ignoring is that the Absa intervention only occurred *after* an agreement was reached between RHY and SkB over the mine and who was going to have what.
I would really like to know what RHY did told you about that agreement.

"On 20th september we were told that RHY counsil has decided to give the mine back. RHY did not recall the army as promised, and on 25th and 27th, 5 and 7 days after their promised withdrawal, Messer's and Hugie's armies attacked the square. Deimos(RHY) was told before hand that armies were incoming to the square. The attacks were on behalf of SkB, they are fully with us in this."

So if it was like this... agreement was gone as soon as RHY broke it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 15:36
"I did say that RHY and H? are not confederated which is fact"

It was a fact.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 15:40
Originally posted by Janosch Janosch wrote:

"I did say that RHY and H? are not confederated which is fact"
It was a fact.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 15:41
Originally posted by Ossian Ossian wrote:



H? " Your daya are gone - deal with it" . Leave this alone and let "New Community" solve the issue sensibly.

 

 


I don't know who this person is in game. Looks like another anonymous coward, but this perfectly personifies the Soup attitude. They think they are the "New World Order" and that everyone should bow to it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 15:44
Originally posted by Janosch Janosch wrote:

"I did say that RHY and H? are not confederated which is fact"

It was a fact.


A fact with a large (erroneous) assumption behind it. 

That assumption being that the in-game diplomacy mechanisms are the *only* ones people can use.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 15:44
Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

Originally posted by Ossian Ossian wrote:


H? " Your daya are gone - deal with it" . Leave this alone and let "New Community" solve the issue sensibly.


I don't know who this person is in game. Looks like another anonymous coward, but this perfectly personifies the Soup attitude. They think they are the "New World Order" and that everyone should bow to it.

There is no evidence that this is a Consone member. And saying they are is just propaganda. Also could you show me where Consone has shown their "New World Order Attitude?" On the contrary, Jasche's post showed great humility.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 15:59
Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

Originally posted by Ossian Ossian wrote:



H? " Your daya are gone - deal with it" . Leave this alone and let "New Community" solve the issue sensibly.

 

 


I don't know who this person is in game. Looks like another anonymous coward, but this perfectly personifies the Soup attitude. They think they are the "New World Order" and that everyone should bow to it.


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