Rhyagelle Responds To Absaroke Aggression

Grego, losing towns is not the end. Players can build their towns back. I lose all my towns on my previous account in Illyriad but I made new account and back to the game.

If someone can not afford to lose their towns then please play a game where you can't lose your towns.

The language being thrown around here, particularly from the H? side of this discussion, is VERY reminiscent of the type of language Used by the OLD valar (no accusations against the current valar)

In my eyes, SKb/ABSA/Vic are entirely justified in their actions. (while i must admit the language absa used in some of their communications might have been brash and an invitation to "COME AT ME, BRO" but i do not see this as grounds to siege every ABSA member in keppen).

Breaking sieges against your ALLY is NOT an aggressive move, it is a FIGHT FOR SURVIVAL (waaaa, they're not letting us kill them!!)

And to anyone trying to deny this with the urgency of a potty break, this IS about the mine, since this is WHERE it STARTED. the mine was SKBs, RHY tried to take it, SKB called in help from an ally against a bigger alliance. An ALLY. Expecting them not to help is ludicrous. Great friends they'd be in that situation, if anyone would trust them enough to be friends with them after that.

Sieging almost every ABSA town in Keppen is an ENORMOUS overreaction to a mining dispute, especially since the players involved are not even being sieged (I remember several instances where we had grievances against people in other alliances, but after we declared war against these alliances we concentrated almost EXCLUSIVELY our attention against these specific people, BELAR. Show me the sense in trying to kill the cities of everyone else BESIDES the people involved).

As it is, i cannot accept the stance H? and (it looks to me with your comments on this thread) Dlords have taken in this situation. I love being in Dlords, and you are a dear friend, Belar, along with everyone in the Dlords royal cast, but i CANNOT in clear conscience condone these actions against Absa and say with a straight face in any time in the future that i might have the moral high ground in any other situation. It goes against my very nature.

HOWEVER, if any clear and undeniable evidence is shown at any time showing that absa provoked these sieges besides the incident on the mine or the taunting language in the conversations between RHY and ABSA (specifically Diplo and Magic attacks by ABSA against RHY) that would change around the situation considerably. Until such a time, i will not commit any troops in any offensive manner in this event, but will only use it in defense of Dlords and Dil members.

I am sorry for disobeying your command in this matter, belar, and i accept any punishment you feel is required for talking out of turn here in the public forum. As it is i feel physically sick having to apparently be stuck on THIS side of the situation.

-GNU

This war was not started for your right over a mineral mine. This war was started to safeguard your 'right' to threaten and exploit a smaller alliance - SkB - as you please. To safeguard that right, you have sought help from H to eliminate Absa, SkB and anyone who support them. (there is atleast one H siege on the way to SkB that I know of)

By taking a favour for doing a dirty deed, you subject yourselves to the same treatment from your masters, that you wanted to subject SkB to. You may be able to sow fear among your neighbours by being H's sidekick, but what is the point if you have no cause for self respect?

For those few in H who are eager to support henchmen and extortionists - by systematically driving away the people who do not bow down to you, you become not the tallest among men, but the biggest animal in the den.

Thanks Tatharion for the journal of General Kaldorei Sunstrider, you made me feel proud to be a member of Absaroke.

And Thanks GNU, it is good to see courage and honesty when eyes are tired of seeing hypocrisy. 

It's not really about the mine, and started months earlier:  Check the date of the NAP between RHY and H? vs. the date of the Consone announcement, for starters, and take a very long look at the strategic map.

Smoking GNU wrote: mine was SKBs, RHY tried to take it, SKB called in help from an ally against a bigger alliance. An ALLY. Expecting them not to help is ludicrous.

 But then trove was never related to the strategical objective.  Some farmers want to test how cold or hot their soup really is.   

It does seem as though there is more to this than Rhy/H? are putting forward.