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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 23:57
Originally posted by DeathDealer89 DeathDealer89 wrote:

What is to stop ABSA from attacking RHY troops when it suits them after this agreement?

I believe that would be the NAP.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 23:08
I'm just curious what would happen to any army that parked 2 squares from one of your cities Deathdealer89. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 21:53
RHY had and agreement with SKB.  

ABSA attacked RHY troops after an agreement was made.  

What is to stop ABSA from attacking RHY troops when it suits them after this agreement?  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 21:50
Originally posted by DeathDealer89 DeathDealer89 wrote:

Well good they made peace.   Although RHY thought that everything was fine with SKB when Absa attacked their armies to.  So it wouldn't surprise me at all if Consone went back on well everything they 'promised.' 

I think you are unclear in what you have written - to pick on one point, Absa is the only Consone member that is a party to this agreement and they have not negotiated on behalf of Consone.  There is no suggestion that anything is settled between H? and VIC, or Dlord and WE, or any other conflict.

If you agree with that, then which promise are you worried about?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 20:06
Well good they made peace.   Although RHY thought that everything was fine with SKB when Absa attacked their armies to.  So it wouldn't surprise me at all if Consone went back on well everything they 'promised.' 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 18:45
Oh cool, so H? and Consone can all go home peacefully now?  Since this supposedly burgeoned up out of the RHY/Absa/SkB thing I fail to see why the rest should continue.  Of course that hasn't stopped Curse declaring war on WE (not Consone) because DLords asked them, but that's another thing entirely.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 18:43
Stop the war!! The whole lot of it. Pointless.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 18:25
Originally posted by Gaia Nutella Tulips Gaia Nutella Tulips wrote:

This is a message stating that they have resolved their differences but will happily slaughter each other for as long as the greater war continues. Though in theory the whole war should just stop because they have nothing in the fight about.. In Theory..

I didn't quite get that impression from my initial reading of it.  That actually seems like a problem with the document -- that there is some wiggle-room for interpretation.  I assume the part that makes you think they'll keep fighting is this part:

Originally posted by Jorcle Jorcle wrote:

2. NAP

As a mechanism to avoid unnecessary conflict. The NAP will be instituted once current hostilities between our respective allies allow.

That part does make it seem like the whole agreement is fluff, since I don't see why the actions of allies will inhibit or modify their own behaviors.  Better to get the NAP in place and set a good example for all parties involved.

I assume the reasoning behind this is the dubious and limited implementation of diplomacy mechanics.  That is, signing a NAP doesn't prevent military actions in progress from ceasing, so I guess it might be against certain parties' (the defenders') best interests if there are already troops on the move.

In theory though, new offensive actions should cease and attacks in progress should be withdrawn...or at least that's what the end of the document heavily implies (though if that's the case, I'm not sure why it isn't organized differently):

Originally posted by Jorcle Jorcle wrote:

4. Other Conflicts

This agreement does not prohibit the alliances here agreed from aiding their allies in other conflicts. However on no account will the alliances here agreed attack or assist in attacks against each other's cities.

If you attach a particular meaning to this section involving "other conflicts" then I suppose you could argue that this isn't a peace agreement at all, since it provides no provisions for resolving the current conflict.  

In fact, even though I started typing this with the intent to refute GNT's perspective of this document, now that I've reached the end of my post, I suspect it might be quite accurate.  It's good to know that there will be some terms in place to help avoid this sort of conflict in the future...but that doesn't do a whole lot of good for resolving the conflict here in the present.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 11:39
This is a message stating that they have resolved their differences but will happily slaughter each other for as long as the greater war continues. Though in theory the whole war should just stop because they have nothing in the fight about.. In Theory..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 11:36
Skeleton Boar also confirm this peace agreement.
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