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GM Stormcrow
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GM Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Location: Illyria Status: Offline Points: 3820 |
Topic: Return of Moka, and Negativity in GCPosted: 08 Nov 2014 at 16:15 |
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Epidemic, it should be quite painfully clear that we are not "a website directed towards children", and that illy is instead a "general audience website" - so your quote about providing access isn't relevant.
Instead apply this paragraph: 3. Can I block children under 13 from my general audience website or online service?Yes. COPPA does not require you to permit children under age 13 to participate in your general audience website or online service, and you may block children from participating if you so choose. We do so choose, and I think that's quite enough on this issue now. Regards, SC |
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GM Rikoo
Moderator Group
Community & PR Manager Joined: 28 Mar 2014 Location: Mars Status: Offline Points: 1233 |
Posted: 08 Nov 2014 at 14:23 |
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1. We have a legal duty to remove players under the age of 13 from the game
2. We have no way of telling how old a player is, and nor do we wish to become responsible for validating people's ages because:
3. We have to act when we are made aware or believe that a player is under 13, and we have to remove them from the game, however,
4. Notwithstanding 3 above, we're bored of this now, and so from now on, anyone making a public statement (true, false, joking, stirring etc) which says "I am under 13" will have their account removed from the game. 5. Removal from the game means account deletion, and the system will automatically refuse re-entry to the game by the mechanisms it normally uses to refuse spammers, botters and otherwise banned people. GM Rikoo EDIT: These rules -- as well as the rest of them, along with COPPA information -- are on my profile in game.
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Illyriad Community Manager / Public Relations / community@illyriad.co.uk
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Epidemic
Postmaster
Joined: 03 Nov 2012 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 768 |
Posted: 08 Nov 2014 at 10:07 |
Complying with COPPA: Frequently Asked QuestionsA GUIDE FOR BUSINESS AND PARENTS
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SimplyDivine
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Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Status: Offline Points: 20 |
Posted: 08 Nov 2014 at 10:04 |
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What I find truly astounding is how clueless the devs think we are...some people get two hour or four hour GC bans for saying they're under age and others get perma-banned. All this talk of zero tolerance because of some statute is a total smokescreen, and the players know it. Not once have I seen a GM defend that *make it up as we go along* approach to enforcement of anything, come to think of it.
Not that it matters one bit of a damn, they run the show and we literally pay for that privilege with real money. Well, some of us have decided to speak with our wallets (and purses) and say NO MORE. You want to see the green? Show us the Moka!
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Grego
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Joined: 09 May 2010 Location: Klek Status: Offline Points: 729 |
Posted: 08 Nov 2014 at 09:27 |
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Please devs, let Moka back when she turns 13 :D
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Rill
Postmaster General
Player Council - Geographer Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 6903 |
Posted: 08 Nov 2014 at 02:05 |
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I think the point regarding the age restriction is a good one, since the nature of the violation is by definition a temporary state. If the only reason a player has been banned is because he/she was not of age, then there is no reason the player could not play if for example he/she had been 12 at the time but turned 13 yesterday. Or whenever the player became the appropriate age.
Banning a player forever based on being underage doesn't seem to make much sense.
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Hiei
Wordsmith
Joined: 28 Jul 2012 Status: Offline Points: 168 |
Posted: 08 Nov 2014 at 01:59 |
Okay
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Sheza
Forum Warrior
Joined: 16 Oct 2012 Location: Kumala Status: Offline Points: 325 |
Posted: 08 Nov 2014 at 00:23 |
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permaban can be lifted. I know it can seen in lots in other game . and they come back ..
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If Horses don't go to Heaven when they die. then I want to go where they go.
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Angrim
Postmaster General
Joined: 02 Nov 2011 Location: Laoshin Status: Offline Points: 1173 |
Posted: 07 Nov 2014 at 22:26 |
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Twist
Wordsmith
Joined: 08 Jul 2012 Location: united kingdom Status: Offline Points: 140 |
Posted: 07 Nov 2014 at 22:19 |
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you would think so, jordigui... but in trying to return.... how long a time frame? do they need to provide proof they are now eligible by being 13+?
where is the line drawn, from a player being banned for being under age.... and GM's determining that same player returning later is now the correct age... wait a year... 2 years? is proof required? this is not, correct me if I'm wrong... this is not covered in T&C... or anywhere on these related threads? as far as I know.... there is no process for any such eventuality? |
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