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Vytek
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Posted: 28 Jul 2010 at 12:53 |
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KK .. by no means a definitive expert on Orcs. Fantasy Role Play and most FRP tactical games define Orc and Goblin as 2 separate Races. Though they are linked by their green skin. If we are to mesh the 2 here then we need some definate catagorization of roles and uses.
Goblins being weaker by far should be classed to spearmen and archers. While Orcs should bear the brunt of the fighting and the better units. Also bearing in mind that Tier 3 units and other units will come eventually lets adhere to the KISS rule for now.
Spearmen Goblin Spearmen Orc Heavy Pike
Ranged Goblin Throwers Orc Archers
Infantry Orc Swords Orc Blademasters
Calvary Goblin Wolf Riders Orc Warg Riders
Edited by Vytek - 28 Jul 2010 at 13:23
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Leungarific
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Posted: 28 Jul 2010 at 12:11 |
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Taking a leaf from Warhammer Fantasy/40K, I'd like to suggest renaming the conscripted force (basic spearmen) as "Gretchin".
If this doesn't appeal, then I second Shrapnel's idea of Orc Grunts, or just plain Grunts (pun intended).
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GlyphGryph
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Posted: 02 Jul 2010 at 22:08 |
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Orc Brutes, then? Just burly orcs? Orc Hammers?
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GM Gryphon
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Posted: 02 Jul 2010 at 20:41 |
I believe "Worgs" is trademarked by the Tolkien family, but may be wrong.
Boars is interesting. Since Orcs are basically porcine, would sort of be like riding your cousin... :)
Also, I would avoid "Wardancers", as I think the Elves of same name might be mightily offended...
Edited by GM Gryphon - 02 Jul 2010 at 20:44
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Noryasha Grunk
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Posted: 02 Jul 2010 at 04:45 |
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Goblins can ride boars! Like in Twilight Princess!
And the Orcs can ride bears. ^vvv^
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Aelfric
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Posted: 02 Jul 2010 at 01:54 |
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I believe the orcs in Tolkien's Middle Earth rode wolf-like mounts, so it's nothing new.
What about boars? I think they're more "orc-oriented" than wolves. Wolves fit well with the elves.
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HonoredMule
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Joined: 05 Mar 2010
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Posted: 01 Jul 2010 at 00:28 |
I always considered the greatwolf-rider an excellent fantasy variant on cavalry. I believe I first encountered wolf riders in Warcraft 1.
GM Stormcrow wrote:
HonoredMule wrote:
One request: if you could provide an authoritative
list of all name changes before you implement them (i.e. mapping from
old name to new name including plural forms), it would save a fair bit
of trial and error updating various 3rd-party tools, and allow them to
keep working without any downtime.
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Yes, absolutely HM; we'll give at least a week's notice.
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Thanks so much.
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GlyphGryph
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Posted: 30 Jun 2010 at 16:55 |
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...I think it would be cooler if they rode bears. So nyah. :P
http://wow.zuggaming.com/wp-content/uploads/brown_war_bear.jpg http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/Dragonmarked_Gallery/101345.jpg
And it still ends up being made of horses either way, so its just flavour. :P
Edited by GlyphGryph - 30 Jun 2010 at 16:56
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col0005
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Posted: 30 Jun 2010 at 16:40 |
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Actually orc beastmaster should be changed; If there really are plans to introduce a bestary at a later date the name would be very confusing
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Shrapnel
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Posted: 30 Jun 2010 at 16:29 |
I love this idea too, but with a few modifications:
I don't like Orc Lobbers, sounds wimpy. This may be generic, but even just Orc Archers would be better.
How about Orc grunts for the basic orc infantry and Orc fangs for the advanced infantry?
Orc Beastmaster is ok, but they ride Worgs (meaner wolves), not bears.
I definitely like Goblin Sappers much better than Goblin Demolishers.
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