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bansisdead
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Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 21:33 |
Kumomoto wrote:
bansisdead wrote:
When I started playing this game the only 'force' available was military attacks, diplo attacks et cetera, but there was was no real chance of financial lose. Now force can have a real money price in game, the term force implies no choice, imo.
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Unless you didn't count the money someone spent on building their cities up that you just torched... One could argue that would be financial loss, no?
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That's if there was any real world money spent building the City, but yes in some cases I concede . Though you enter into the game knowing your cities may well be sieged, but I bet you didn't imagine medals being demanded off you, well that's if you can afford one.
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Kumomoto
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Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 21:10 |
bansisdead wrote:
When I started playing this game the only 'force' available was military attacks, diplo attacks et cetera, but there was was no real chance of financial lose. Now force can have a real money price in game, the term force implies no choice, imo.
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Unless you didn't count the money someone spent on building their cities up that you just torched... One could argue that would be financial loss, no?
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vty
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Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 21:02 |
Well, like I said, if the answer is no, that is the answer. Forcing someone to spend money on you is actually a crime. But, that is not where I am going with it and I don't think that is what people mean, but it is something that popped into my head.
This topic is out of control, send an army or diplo, it's only a game!
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bansisdead
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Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 21:00 |
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When I started playing this game the only 'force' available was military attacks, diplo attacks et cetera, but there was was no real chance of financial lose. Now force can have a real money price in game, the term force implies no choice, imo.
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vty
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Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 20:55 |
In response to the original thread:
The option should remain to give a medal as a gift to others, Absaroke has been pondering giving medals to players that join us to play in tournaments or assist with a siege.
If someone "forces" you to give a medal, and you don't want to, send a giant army to their doorstep. I think that sometimes we forget what our armies are for, besides drinking beer and spending our gold.
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Kumomoto
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Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 20:43 |
SugarFree wrote:
no but it creates classism. |
Dangit! I always knew I was a peace loving simple farmer peasant until these medals came around and now because I don't have one, everyone else knows it too... ;(
Edited by Kumomoto - 20 Jul 2012 at 20:44
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Tordenkaffen
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Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 20:37 |
GM Luna wrote:
As I described earlier, no player can actually force anyone to spend any prestige on anything. No more than they can make me buy them a cupcake. They can say it, but they cannot make me do it. Not with game mechanics. There is nothing about medals that is pay to win.
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Maybe so, but I nevertheless find myself disagreeing with you on what level of psychological pressure can constitute a "forced"action. The problem would simply be solved if you kept it within alliances.
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SugarFree
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Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 20:32 |
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no but it creates classism and other not so pretty things, like the known issue of "medals or die" kind of things.
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GM Luna
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Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 20:29 |
As I described earlier, no player can actually force anyone to spend any prestige on anything. No more than they can make me buy them a cupcake. They can say it, but they cannot make me do it. Not with game mechanics. There is nothing about medals that is pay to win.
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SugarFree
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Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 20:27 |
^agree fully. medals where really uncalled for.
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