Release from Illyriad Ministry of Truth

Myzel wrote: Hadus wrote: I wish to challenge your belief that H? is to be admonished for lies and subversion. How can you admire and respect a plan to destroy a perceived rival using surprise and hidden motives, and then accuse them for the very tactics which they required to carry out their plan? Simply put, manipulation of facts is part of war. This isn't a duel; there is no honor to be won if you end up face down in a ditch. If deceit and lies are one path to victory, does it make any sense o remove that option on moral grounds, especially when there is no guarantee your opponent won't do the same? You make a good point but it doesn't mean someone can't both admire and admonish H?'s game. Deception can be part of war and I could admire skillful use of it. I think RHY/H?'s feigned interest in peace talks on the condition that VIC would stop breaking sieges was a stroke of genius, really. But I think that it is still a game that can be played with integrity (which, in fact, is a good strategy because other players respect it). Much of H? game has been tainted by namecalling, ridiculing and hateful accusations (although I'm not saying they were the only ones to do it - players from the Consone side or neutral flamers have been doing it as well). I morally can't respect that. And when you think about it, much of the truth-twisting was done in such a half-assed way that hardly anyone actually ate it up. So even from a purely strategic standpoint, I wouldn't respect this part of their game because it wasn't skillful or subtle and only served to make themselves look bad. All in all I'd say H?'s plan was interesting. Its execution had its moments, but was a little too obvious which made the falsehoods all the more blatant. Of course, the game isn't over yet. Maybe they'll have something up their sleeve.

You bring up an excellent point. I suppose I narrowed my own view by speaking purely from a strategic standpoint. Ironically, their attempts to sway public opinion only hurt their own PR.

frankly i am totally amazed that people dont realize that this game encourages planting spies in other alliances, with the amount of accounts we allowed (2) and the ease of sitting accounts without any notice given to other players, its kind of hard to plot in ac and in game mail, lol, even right now there is probably someone in my other account sitting, and i am not even sure which account im writing this from.....but im blond

Deranzin wrote: LionArse wrote: I will not respond to any questions or attempts to draw me out. I do not seek dialog, but to merely offer information. This means you are PREACHING and the acceptance of your words is just a matter of pre-existing belief and the level of personal gullibility.  Anyone can make a clone and pretend to be privy of secret information which he divulges for no personal gain other than a "love for truth" ... it is an old ploy, even older than the internet actually (there is even a person in our TV that claims that he is privy to information that "ONLY HIM and OTHER FOUR people in the whole europe know" and there are people - usually pentioners - that actually believe him  ), and I do not wish to comment anything else on a thread created by someone who loves TRUTH so much that he HIDES even his in game nickname.  Judging only from that small, yet all important fact, you are more likely from Mars than any "ministry" containing "truth" in it title ...

Perhaps the person that speaks with him is the voice of God?

Brids17 wrote: Drejan wrote: What was different? The tournament. H? waited until the consone killed off their troops and then declared war. And this is evident in the distinct lack of effort on their part during the entire tournament. At least that much was planned. As far as the whole conspiracy theory typed out by some guy hiding behind a username that resembles LionHeartz, I don't really believe much of it. But I do believe this was planned before the tourney started.

Except if you read the first 7 pages of the main thread it was pretty obvious that H? had very little involvement as to how things happened. Not until the 8th page that they interfered and its because VIC decided to join in and assist in the fight against RHY which was already fairly even with RHY vs SkB and ABSA. Once VIC involved itself so did H? on page 8. Unless H? also planned to push VIC in to help fight RHY which then thats going to feed all sorts of other conspiracies because they obviously have a great deal of power that no one knows about to control every other guilds actions as well. 

The_Dude wrote: hellion19 wrote: **** Perhaps the person that speaks with him is the voice of God? No.  I have never spoken with him.