Release from Illyriad Ministry of Truth

the only i know is that a few ego trips ruin a whole tournament for the rest of the people in illy, i dont know how the others feel but i was dragged into this war as well as alot of other people by secret backstabbing dealings, but that seems the way that illy is going,  the current leadership of several of the alliances involved is to look out for their own egos first instead of the good of their membership. there are so many people that were caught up in this war that should not be in it and of course these ego character leaders just make rules saying they will not attack anyone small and gosh they will only take 30 percent of strength of a person, or some such garbage. what they dont realize that many of the lesser players change playing styles for the war and what a disruption this is to those players. i say its time to speak up to these egos and tell them to form an alliance  like the members of nc did and fight their so call wars out and leave the rest of us people out of their so call wars....and those being attacked there is no way to win, just give it up...and lets all thank these leaders for us losing the chance of playing an illy wide tournament..u call yourself leaders of the game, then u should respect it, poor job to all leaders involved, especially those with all their secret ways and dealings...oh by the way i went into the safety of a trainning alliance, i hope u rspect that... and tell my bf he better take me out saturday and not play this dumb war....im still mad at him for last weekend...dance dance...i love justin bieber!

gameplayer wrote: a few ego trips ruin a whole tournament for the rest of the people in illy

Alliance tournaments can be fun for players in the alliances on page one, for most other players they are rather boring.  If 11 of the top 20 alliances get into a war distracting them from this tournament it is actually good for some smaller alliances, who would be otherwise squeezed out by H?, VIC, and so on.   

Lion...

Hadus wrote: I wish to challenge your belief that H? is to be admonished for lies and subversion. How can you admire and respect a plan to destroy a perceived rival using surprise and hidden motives, and then accuse them for the very tactics which they required to carry out their plan? Simply put, manipulation of facts is part of war. This isn't a duel; there is no honor to be won if you end up face down in a ditch. If deceit and lies are one path to victory, does it make any sense o remove that option on moral grounds, especially when there is no guarantee your opponent won't do the same?

You make a good point but it doesn't mean someone can't both admire and admonish H?'s game. Deception can be part of war and I could admire skillful use of it. I think RHY/H?'s feigned interest in peace talks on the condition that VIC would stop breaking sieges was a stroke of genius, really. But I think that it is still a game that can be played with integrity (which, in fact, is a good strategy because other players respect it). Much of H? game has been tainted by namecalling, ridiculing and hateful accusations (although I'm not saying they were the only ones to do it - players from the Consone side or neutral flamers have been doing it as well). I morally can't respect that. And when you think about it, much of the truth-twisting was done in such a half-assed way that hardly anyone actually ate it up. So even from a purely strategic standpoint, I wouldn't respect this part of their game because it wasn't skillful or subtle and only served to make themselves look bad.

All in all I'd say H?'s plan was interesting. Its execution had its moments, but was a little too obvious which made the falsehoods all the more blatant. Of course, the game isn't over yet. Maybe they'll have something up their sleeve.


Edited by Myzel - 26 Oct 2012 at 10:44

LionArse wrote: Well. The current sad state of affairs in beautiful Illyriad has reached the point where I feel no choice but to wade in to the cesspool that passes for a great deal of posts on this forum. Most of the posts are of the following types: pedantic, bravado, spin, ego stroking (both self and of others), inability to refrain from seeking attention, self-serving, attempts to troll one party or the other, and outright lies . . . I can and will simply tell you what this war is, at least at the beginning before the vultures and opportunists became involved.