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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote KillerPoodle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jan 2014 at 15:38
Originally posted by Darkwords Darkwords wrote:

all KP has done with his post is to confirm it is H's choice for us to do so.


There's a couple of misconceptions (and have been since the beginning) which I would like to correct here:

Firstly, H? does not make decisions for any of our allies, we never have and we never will.

Each alliance is free to play the game as they see fit. We offer suggestions and advice when it's asked for, we offer a place where we can all coordinate efforts and we provide assistance when it's asked for and where it's possible, but that's it.

Secondly, if you chose to destroy an alliance - that is your choice and your responsibility.

You can try to palm the blame off on someone else by saying "They should have surrendered" or "H? made them do it, it's H?'s fault" but that's just taking the childish, nothing is my fault, way out.

The choice and the responsibility of how you decide to make war is yours and yours alone.
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Since the beginning of this war, The Coalition has lost more than 33% of their cities with population larger than 20k. October 30th 2013 they had 1000 such cities (not including Dlords) and now have less than 700 (including Dlords).

Total cities, they had close to 3000 (not including Dlords, with them they had more than 3000), now they have less than 2500 (including Dlords).

The total population of The Coalition October 30th 2013 was 41 million (not including Dlords, with them it was about 45-6 million), now they are at 32 million (including Dlords).

The Coalition is getting weaker, while The Grand Alliance is getting stronger.
The Grand Alliance now has more cities and more population than when the war started.

(edit for spelling).


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Darkwords Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jan 2014 at 11:55
Originally posted by Sisren Sisren wrote:

Originally posted by Tamaeon Tamaeon wrote:


After TVM, BSH, DB, TCol, T-O and DLord have all fallen for the (perceived) honor of defending H? from the exact same fate you wish to impose upon your enemies? 


We will fall and we will rise together.  We have something you don't have - respect for each other.  Trust of each other.  
You seem convinced the outcome is certain, that troubles me.  For how long have you had precognitive abilities?

Trust yes... respect no...
You trust your allies to lay down in the path of our war machines and loose their cities merely to delay the fate that your alliance faces.
If you respected them, then you would not leave them undefended and you would not expect them to die for your own cause.
Originally posted by Sisren Sisren wrote:



Originally posted by Tamaeon Tamaeon wrote:

Really HM, get some skin in the game and start showing some backbone. Your allies are losing towns on a daily basis; while you spew nonsense, stifle peace talks and pledge the utter destruction of your enemies from the comfort of your homeland. If this course of action is your idea of honor... then I'll call your bluff and denounce you for the scheming cowards that you are!

Backbone he has.  He has been reborn.  :)
Thanks for helping bring the HonoredMule back.  Watch out for his kick.

Lol now that is funny.  I guess you refer to how he kicked his own cities out of the firing line, whilst demanding his allies remain and die.

Originally posted by Sisren Sisren wrote:

Oh, and didn't you stifle the peace talk between RE and CK?  hum...


Through Kumo your alliance has clarified that it is perfectly acceptable for us to destroy your allies accounts, all KP has done with his post is to confirm it is H's choice for us to do so.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Elmindra Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jan 2014 at 11:45
Surely I do Noki, since I am in constant contact with all my allies and have scout reports streaming in from your towns constantly.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote Nokigon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jan 2014 at 07:33
Elmindra- you have no idea what troops our alliances have left, and what that is as a percentage of our original power.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ES2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jan 2014 at 06:31

It is impossible to have any topic about this war without any form of propaganda present. We all already know where people stand on this war, is there any further benefit to another forum thread with people talking about how they will win due to Josh smiling upon them?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote REX_GAMBIT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jan 2014 at 05:16
Originally posted by Brandmeister Brandmeister wrote:

Originally posted by Elmindra Elmindra wrote:

All told the Coalition has lost hundreds of towns 20K pop and higher.
 
I know both sides are posturing here, but this stat seems extremely unlikely.

Of course, I was also skeptical that the damage to Dwarven Lords was purely superficial.


Brad, just go to illy tools and look at the town history of TCol, Dlords, TVM, T-O and H? (not just current members, members who surrendered those too) add those u and the number will be more than 100


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Brandmeister Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jan 2014 at 03:24
Originally posted by Elmindra Elmindra wrote:

All told the Coalition has lost hundreds of towns 20K pop and higher.

I know both sides are posturing here, but this stat seems extremely unlikely.

Of course, I was also skeptical that the damage to Dwarven Lords was purely superficial.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rill Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jan 2014 at 02:50
I for one don't want you removed.  You have contributed a lot to the game -- the wiki and Butler being just the most obvious examples.  While I don't agree with all of Harmless? conduct, H? as an alliance has also contributed significantly to the growth of Illy and the Illy community.

I personally would rather see you continue to play, whether it be in war or in peace, although I prefer peace.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote HonoredMule Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jan 2014 at 02:42
I hardly see any salient points to address - only taunts and bravado.  But I really must ask: was I supposed to just give away my cities and play the martyr?  That's not my definition of an honest effort.

No, I think I'll keep those cities around to contribute to the war effort, and in failing that make you earn my losses at the highest premium I can extract.  I don't need to help you win to prove my loyalty.  I need to do the opposite.  And I'll thank every ally who preserves and consolidates his strength in similar fashion.

Some of you have waited a long time for boredom and the stagnation of the game to do half the work for you, but for me you didn't wait quite long enough.  I would have left the game by now, but under present circumstances I will stay however long it takes to win or be removed by force.

You want my skin in the game?  As long as I'm here, that's my skin.
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