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Dhenna
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Topic: Re: Forum cleaning and new rules Posted: 29 Oct 2011 at 21:27 |
Dear GM Luna,
Please, before you do anything, think strongly of how you go about it. If you've worked as a Community Manager before, you must have heard of the outcry and mess a certain newly appointed Community Manager caused over at the Sony EverQuest forums when she decided to "clean up the forums, re-organize them, and change the forum rules".
Please please please go about this very gently and listen to the community before you make any drastic changes. It can go horribly wrong and cause a lot of hostility between Illyriad staff and Illyriad players - I speak from personal experience.
This is not a critique of you in any way, just some advice from a gamer who has seen this very thing go horribly wrong.
- Dhenna
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GM Luna
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Posted: 29 Oct 2011 at 21:29 |
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I specifically requested that concerns be taken to private message. I'm happy to discuss it further in that matter.
Luna
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GM Luna | Illyriad Community Manager | community@illyriad.co.uk
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Kilotov of DokGthung
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Posted: 29 Oct 2011 at 23:06 |
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why pm? this is something worth debate ( not questioning, debate) and i would like it to be public.
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Kurfist
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Posted: 29 Oct 2011 at 23:09 |
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Probably because they can kill our accounts if we don't abide by their complaint hotline?
Just a thought.
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Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin
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Southern Dwarf
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Posted: 30 Oct 2011 at 00:22 |
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But does it make sense to keep all private to awnser certain questions mutiple times if one might awnser them once? That way many questions might be avoided to ask mutiple times because contrary to belief many people use forum search before asking.
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The_Dude
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Posted: 30 Oct 2011 at 00:58 |
This particular topic is not actually a question about the game which would be the prime purpose of posting a thread in this topic section. 
I suggest a thread in the Suggestions & Enhancements section for comments on how these issues might be best handled.
I doubt the goal of the Dev Team is to stomp out all player interaction.
But in the interest of supporting the idea of forum moderation (which has been lax) I think the community should help guide how that might proceed. And that would reasonably be a Suggestion & Enhancement topic, right?
Edited by The_Dude - 30 Oct 2011 at 01:01
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LordOfTheSwamp
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Posted: 30 Oct 2011 at 09:07 |
This makes me think of all the Facebook users who seem outraged every time Facebook makes a change, and 2 weeks later can't even remember what the change was.
AFAICT, most of what Luna is doing is just clarifying how things already are, and clarifying a few common sense points. The only changes I can actually see - e.g. the removal of the Bitter Sea - are entirely appropriate to a game that is growing, and that (as it needs to be inclusive of more, diverse members) is turning from a small club into a broader assembly.
The way that the devs interact with and support Illyriad's community is very cool - and now one of them has made the community her main focus, which is great. I don't see why people would be anything but supportive of the devs on this.
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"A boy is building sandcastles on a beach. You go and kick down his castle. You could say that it only reflects how you play with sandcastles. Others may think it reflects who you are." - Ander.
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Gilthoniel
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Posted: 30 Oct 2011 at 10:35 |
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I am sorry but I don't think that the high handed approach is the best way to go about cleaning up the forums.
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Nesse
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Posted: 30 Oct 2011 at 15:03 |
GM Luna wrote:
I specifically requested that concerns be taken to private message. I'm happy to discuss it further in that matter.
Luna
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I would appreciate the discussion about how to gently proceed with improvements in forum and community administration to remain open, too. Or should everyone that wants to be part of that discussion send a private message to GM Luna asking what thoughts are currently being considered?
I agree with Dhennas analysis: do proceed, but be gentle.
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Kumomoto
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Posted: 30 Oct 2011 at 15:07 |
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I don't see any substantive changes to the way we will use the forums or play the game... So why are folks making a fuss?
Edited by Kumomoto - 30 Oct 2011 at 15:34
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