 Createure wrote:
None taken.
And it's an interesting discussion... but probably a little off topic by now. 
@T.D: yep H? has held quite a lead for some time... have we really influenced the way other alliances want to play the game at all though? In my mind the only exception was White, who had to disband because their leadership's goal was to defeat H? and manufacture a totally polarised power structure in Illyriad with them at the top of it.
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What was the topic?
Just going with the flow of a very stimulating conversation that is really crossing a lot of threads today.
Oh no, Createure. I am not suggesting that H? has influenced the play of others. That's not my point at all.
H? has held the lead for my entire exisitence in Illy beginning April 4, 2010. And even then, the lead was more than the #2 and #3 alliances combined. So by week 6 or 7 of Illy, competition for the #1 alliance spot was settled. This is a comment on Illy design, not H? play.
My following comments are also about Illy design and not about the people or alliances mentioned.
I'm just guessing, but I suspect that White developed thier strategy on 2 pilars - each a mistake.
Pilar 1: A fixed life to Illy. That the round was 1 year in length, and then a new round. This encouraged shorter-term strategies like fighting the bigger alliance. While I never saw the Devs declare a change to this design element, by June it was apparent that Illy would be perpetual and not have a fixed round structure.
Pilar 2: Illy is a wargame.
Were those 2 pilars correct, then White's strategy would have been sound, even if facing long-odds. However, those pilars were false.
This much is known to me as fact by reason of my presence in the discussion: by July, White were bored by the absence of things to do in Illy and tired of the extreme personal time commitment war in Illy requires. So the suicide strategy became their Modus Operandi.
This part is just my guess: The Suicide Strategy gave White something to do, provided a finality that arrived in what, 6 weeks or so, and...from thier perspective, a sense of defiant pride for standing up to H?. I see today that most of White simply abandoned Illy. But I do recognize some White that opted to stay in Illy and join other alliances.
I intend no personal judgments on any player or alliance. This is just my perspective [much of it being from the other side of the fence from H? which was from circumstances rather than personal choice] of historical events in Illy.
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