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Nesse
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Posted: 28 Nov 2012 at 20:12 |
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I must say the discussion in this thread appears very strange to me. It all started innocently with an alarming report of a contagious disease from our highly renowned research lab. With strong indications of the contamination coming from a Harmless? town we had recently traded with, we saw no other recourse than to declare Harmless? in quarantine. Since then, we have had a lot of support from friends in many alliances in Elgea, including huge efforts from several Harmless? towns to prevent the disease from spreading into Roads towns. Our intrepid researchers have redoubled their efforts and not only come out with a cure for the original disease (that will also reduce plaque and prevent dandruff - the patented solution can be purchase at your nearest Road office), but they also discovered that the first suspicion of over-troved Harmless? soil was false, and as just declared in the preamble of this thread, using such soil is indeed harmless for Elves, Humans, Dwarves and probably Orcs as well (final trials ongoing to verify this are currently underway with remarkably uninterested Orcs). Thus, any implied or expressed concern about our ability to exert free will should be addressed instead to a separate forum on theoretical philosopy, that we feel certain would appreciate such musings. Good Speed! /Odd, Chief Road Coordinator
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Deranzin
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Posted: 28 Nov 2012 at 21:17 |
Aurordan wrote:
Well, this thread has already been Godwin'd so I don't know if it's worth responding, but NATO has acted several times in defense if its member states. The invasion of Afghanistan comes to mind. |
and, as I said, in such groups someone is always bound to think that "offence is the best defence" ... ;p
Grego wrote:
Then why you guys keep knitting your theories based on interpretation that Absa was agressor? |
First of all I am one guy (I am not yet fat enough to be refered in the plural form ... please wait 30 years :p ) and second of all, because you yourself posted that you attacked first in your very own topic.
http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/phew_topic4331.html
"This was first blood between us...."
So, since when using simple facts is a theoretical practice .?.
Grego wrote:
Deranzin, you always use many words and say nothing, or I am too dumb to understand your fine logic.
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I wouldn't say that any of these cases apply here, but since you think they are valid, you pick one ... 
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Well, this thread has already been Godwin'd so I don't know if it's worth responding, |
And something else ... I mentioned the word Germany and WWII facts, not Nazis which are distict things, ergo the law is yet to be applied. 
Edited by Deranzin - 28 Nov 2012 at 21:20
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Vanerin
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Posted: 28 Nov 2012 at 22:23 |
Why is a thread celebrating peace filled with arguing?
Good job H? and Roads! I am glad you got things all worked out.
~Vanerin
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Sajreth
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Joined: 24 Apr 2011
Location: Ohio
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Points: 74
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Posted: 28 Nov 2012 at 22:25 |
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Ok as I see it Consone is really nothing more than a group of alliances confed with each-other, but rather than keeping it hidden from everyone, we let it be publicly known. Each alliance is autonomous, however we communicate and work together. There is no organized leadership because once again we're a group of autonomous entities, and not an imperialistic mega-group.
Advantages include, shared knowledge, military assistance, and even an economic benefit toward members.
However the well being of each individual alliance has to come first, and this is what has happened with Roads. It's sad to see them go, but if it's what is best for them, then that is all that matters.
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Aurordan
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Posted: 28 Nov 2012 at 22:52 |
Deranzin wrote:
and, as I said, in such groups someone is always bound to think that "offence is the best defence" ... ;p |
Can you honestly say it was unjustified without your own hand reaching up to strangle you?
Deranzin wrote:
And something else ... I mentioned the word Germany and WWII facts, not Nazis which are distict things, ergo the law is yet to be applied.
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I think it's pretty clear what you were trying to imply. Your denials here ring pretty hollow.
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Deranzin
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Posted: 28 Nov 2012 at 23:14 |
Aurordan wrote:
Deranzin wrote:
and, as I said, in such groups someone is always bound to think that "offence is the best defence" ... ;p |
Can you honestly say it was unjustified without your own hand reaching up to strangle you? |
I think that politics are not allowed in these forums so, as you can see, I reserved any judgement and just quoted the fact of the strategy.
Also, as you can see, it is not easy to find "the truth" in virtual wars in a confined environment, so imagine how tenuous would have been and such declarations any of us would try to make on real wars within the vastness of our planet.
Aurordan wrote:
Deranzin wrote:
And something else ... I mentioned the word Germany and WWII facts, not Nazis which are distict things, ergo the law is yet to be applied.
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I think it's pretty clear what you were trying to imply. Your denials here ring pretty hollow. |
Actually I implied nothing about it ... just the fact of the matter that the Germans in WWII turned viciously against the Italians (with such ferocity in some areas that even the conquered people took pity on them and hid them ! (*) ) when the Italians signed peace treates with the Allies. On that regard I pointed out had Consone followed such an idea, that tactic would have been extremely bad PR and it would exhaust their already thin resources ... same thing that happened to the Germans in the real war, as recorded by history.
So, what is there to imply with the pure facts .?. It was just a bad war tactic that happened to be implemented by the Germans and I do not see why mentioning Germans and WWII immediately brings forth the Godwin's Law ... (*) To lighten up an old Greek joke on the matter : A very old person around the change of the millenium goes to a priest to confess. - Father, he says, I have done something very bad and before I die, I'd like to confess ... - What, my son .?. - When I hid an Italian in the WWII from the Germans, I actually charged him for rent. - Well, that was abysmal behaviour, but after so many I guess that you should be forgiven. - Thank you father ! The old man says and start to leave but as an afterthought he ask the priest: "Father ? Do you think I should tell him that the war is over .?. "  Godwin's law here as well .?. 
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GM Luna
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Community Manager
Joined: 22 Oct 2011
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Posted: 28 Nov 2012 at 23:21 |
It is off topic and inappropriate to continue to compare Illy to a real life war. Please quit doing it.
Luna
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GM Luna | Illyriad Community Manager | community@illyriad.co.uk
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HonoredMule
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Joined: 05 Mar 2010
Location: Canada
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Posted: 29 Nov 2012 at 06:04 |
I have a real-life booger. It's not even a little war-like.
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"Apparently, quoting me is a 'thing' now." - HonoredMule
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patoloco569
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Posted: 29 Nov 2012 at 06:26 |
HonoredMule wrote:
I have a real-life booger. It's not even a little war-like.
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Oh my. I have blennophobia. Please........stay away. If cornered by a booger, I will fight you....
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HonoredMule
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Posted: 29 Nov 2012 at 06:31 |
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"Apparently, quoting me is a 'thing' now." - HonoredMule
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