Adjusting the in-game text editor
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Topic: Adjusting the in-game text editor
Posted By: GM Rikoo
Subject: Adjusting the in-game text editor
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2015 at 13:57
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We tweaked the in-game text editor for a few reasons.
First, the thing was huge. As more and more players access the game from mobile devices like iPads (which works great with Illy) or the Windows 8 app, we needed to take out some of the options that most players did not utilize.
Before:
After:
If you still need that fine-tuning and control, you can adjust the HTML. Most players who edited a lot will already be familiar with this.
Please leave any comments or suggestions below, and PLEASE report any bugs here so we can have them all in one place. :)
Rikoo
------------- Illyriad Community Manager / Public Relations / community@illyriad.co.uk
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Posted By: Artefore
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2015 at 14:04
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Artefore wrote:
Having received an award from the devs for my work on the construction of my profile, I feel I am, if not uniquely, then more than adequately suited to address the new HTML editor the devs have implemented for such tasks as profile editing and IGM writing:
It sucks.
This conclusion was reached by myself after a period of tinkering with the new system, and it is by no means a fault of the reluctance to relinquish the old in favor of the new. It simply lacks the features the old system had. Gone are button options, which have given us the classic "Do Not Click" button at the bottom of T-O's profile. Gone are underlines. And most significantly, gone are the justification tools. No longer can we achieve the simple task of centering text on the page without using an unwieldy amount of spaces. Justification is a necessary part of any page layout, and to remove it is, to me, a very strange move. I sincerely hope the devs will reinstate many if not all of these features in the near future.
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------------- "don't quote me on that" -Artefore
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Posted By: abstractdream
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2015 at 14:40
Please return the Center option. It is the one button that I'm missing so far.
------------- Bonfyr Verboo
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Posted By: Diva
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2015 at 15:22
Posted By: Captain Kindly
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2015 at 15:37
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It appears that the player banner is shown in your mail when you start sending/replying to a message, regardless of whether that selection box has been marked or not.
Ticket number 11451.
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Posted By: Angrim
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2015 at 15:42
i do not use the sig image and it is unchecked as an option but appears in every new igm (and reply) just the same.
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Posted By: Granlik
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2015 at 15:58
I think Plink will still be able to
make progress but he does have a propensity to press the wrong button
when given a choice.
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Posted By: Brandmeister
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2015 at 17:37
I like it a lot. This configuration edits far faster on my iPad. It was previously almost unusable for IGM communications.
I, too, have the problem where the signature image appears in every new mail no matter what I do.
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Posted By: GM Rikoo
Date Posted: 11 Nov 2015 at 17:42
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So it looks like signatures appear when writing an IGM, but not when the mail is received.
Got it, will pass it on. Anything else?
The main thing is that this should speed up mail writing for most of us.
GM Rikoo
------------- Illyriad Community Manager / Public Relations / community@illyriad.co.uk
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Posted By: Dravin the Sloth
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2015 at 07:13
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center text. missing the center text. would like the center text option.
yeah, center.
it's an actual issue. even more so than my riddles being disqualified for not being illy enough. and a belated boo to you on that.
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Posted By: Captain Kindly
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2015 at 14:48
GM Rikoo wrote:
So it looks like signatures appear when writing an IGM, but not when the mail is received.
Got it, will pass it on. Anything else?
The main thing is that this should speed up mail writing for most of us.
GM Rikoo |
Yes.
If you get an error message and then get back to the message after clicking the OK-button (in my case, I forgot to fill in a subject line) you get the signature banner for a second time, under the first one.
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Posted By: Sheza
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2015 at 16:37
Where is the color ?
------------- If Horses don't go to Heaven when they die. then I want to go where they go.
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Posted By: abstractdream
Date Posted: 21 Nov 2015 at 12:49
I would like to report that the IGM not working on mobile issue (wherein one had to use the Desktop View setting) has been fixed with this change.
------------- Bonfyr Verboo
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Posted By: BARQ
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2015 at 17:03
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there should be an option for every player to switch between two editors lite version is good for mobile/tab users but can you please allow players playing from Computer to choose the older version
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Posted By: Arx
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2015 at 17:22
Might just be me, but the new editor is still grindingly slow on my (not underspecced, it's practically better than my laptop) Windows 8 tablet.
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Posted By: mrmarcdee
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2015 at 22:57
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I do not like the new editor, both the style of it, and the removal of features.
Previously I was able to copy-paste formatted spreadsheets into an IGM and it would look nice. This no longer happens. Anybody know of an easy way to do this now?
Edit: I have attempted to copy and paste the html source code from a google spreadsheets page into an IGM. It looks good in the preview, but when the mail is sent all the cell sizes and colors disappear and it looks exactly the same as if I did a normal copy-paste. :(
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Posted By: jtk310
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2016 at 20:59
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I'd like to bump this thread, specifically the points brought up by Artefore. In order to get formatting the way I want on our alliance profile page, now I have to directly edit the HTML. That's OK for me, as I am familiar with it. What's worse, though, is that the changes I make directly to the source work fine when I first update the profile page, but if I go back to make a change later I have to fix the ENTIRE thing again. When you re-open the editor, it changes parts of the code to what amounts to bad HTML, throwing in non-breaking spaces and empty paragraphs all over the place where I didn't place them. Then if you click update to save your new changes, it changes the original formatting completely, not just the updated sections.
I think the improvements given by this editor are great (like me being able to use my phone to IGM, that's awesome!). I think the regressions caused by this editor are annoying (like having to re-write all the formatting on my ENTIRE alliance profile page in HTML each time I make even a simple update). I know this has been brought up in GC before, so I originally chose not to post here because my complaint had pretty much been raised by Artefore. I changed my mind because as far as I am aware, nothing has been done to address or even respond to this complaint about profile and alliance profile pages.
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Posted By: GM Rikoo
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2016 at 22:22
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To quote SC first:
"We had to change the editor because the old editor (whilst feature-rich for some) was actually preventing many players on iOS platforms from even sending igms. So the change was very important. We'll restore as much functionality as we can, but simple getting it working for about 20% of the playerbase was more important than formatting options for the rest!"
...and also to say, as was pointed out, that communications involve two parties. You might want to format that fancy email or profile, yet the person on the receiving end gets nothing but a headache (or app crash!) out of it.
We will let you know if we adjust the editor back, but do not expect it any time soon. It's not high on the list of priorities.
Rikoo
------------- Illyriad Community Manager / Public Relations / community@illyriad.co.uk
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Posted By: abstractdream
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2016 at 00:53
jtk310 wrote:
... the changes I make directly to the source work fine when I first update the profile page, but if I go back to make a change later I have to fix the ENTIRE thing again. When you re-open the editor, it changes parts of the code to what amounts to bad HTML, throwing in non-breaking spaces and empty paragraphs all over the place where I didn't place them. Then if you click update to save your new changes, it changes the original formatting completely, not just the updated sections.
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I assume you've already figured this out, but I wanted to mention it for those interested; use a separate app (notepad, etc.) to do your coding and copy paste into the online editor. Save your work and when you want to edit again, edit in the app and you can overwrite all the bad code generated by the online editor.
I used this method when writing long IGMs (I do that) as well because sometimes the browser (phone, tablet or computer) would crash and I'd lose everything. The difficulty you mentioned in your post also began happening to me in the Illyriad Forum a while back (over a year ago). I've saved myself a ton of headaches doing this and highly recommend it.
------------- Bonfyr Verboo
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Posted By: Ruarc
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2016 at 12:59
GM Rikoo wrote:
We will let you know if we adjust the editor back, but do not expect it any time soon. It's not high on the list of priorities.
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I think those of us who use the igm system would really appreciate it if, at the very least, the elements of the editor which are currently broken (at least two - see below) are pushed up that priority list so that it works fully in its current limited form. More often than not I'm finding that people receiving messages from me containing hyperlinks end up looking at something like this http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#x_x_/World/Map/51/-2406 despite it appearing perfectly normal on my end. Clicking on that hyperlink either results in an error or autojumps you to some random place in the ocean between the two continents. The signature image seems to be completely borked as well. Again, it's another issue where it appears fine when sending but receiving it disappears entirely.
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Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2016 at 07:28
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When one copies and pastes something from gc to mail, all the medals turn out gigantic. To make it readable, you have to manually delete all of them. This is very annoying especially when one is trying to take notes on what GM Stormcrow is saying for future reference.
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Posted By: Sheza
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2016 at 18:11
Paste as plain text and the medals are gone
------------- If Horses don't go to Heaven when they die. then I want to go where they go.
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Posted By: Rill
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2016 at 00:33
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ty Sheza, will do that next time.
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